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How long to the next FATWA?
« on: March 22, 2008, 02:41:34 PM »
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Pope baptizes prominent Italian Muslim

By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer

 VATICAN CITY - Italy's most prominent Muslim commentator, a journalist with iconoclastic views such as support for Israel, converted to Roman Catholicism Saturday when the pope baptized him at an Easter service.
 
As a choir sang, Pope Benedict XVI poured holy water over Magdi Allam's head and said a brief prayer in Latin . . .

Full story here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080322/ap_on_re_eu/pope_muslim_convert

So . . .  anyone taking bets as to how long it will be until some Moslem cleric(s) issue a fatwa demanding the convert be killed?
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2008, 03:11:30 PM »
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Pope baptizes prominent Italian Muslim

By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer

 VATICAN CITY - Italy's most prominent Muslim commentator, a journalist with iconoclastic views such as support for Israel, converted to Roman Catholicism Saturday when the pope baptized him at an Easter service.
 
As a choir sang, Pope Benedict XVI poured holy water over Magdi Allam's head and said a brief prayer in Latin . . .

Full story here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080322/ap_on_re_eu/pope_muslim_convert

So . . .  anyone taking bets as to how long it will be until some Moslem cleric(s) issue a fatwa demanding the convert be killed?

Allam has not been religious for a long time and has been viewed as a sort of Italian Wafa Sultan-this is an event that's unlikely to be on the radar screen of anyone who doesn't read CNN in english.

"Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death."

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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2008, 03:12:26 PM »
Like it matters? If they're an apostate, someone will demand that they be killed.

For heaven's sake, these people riot over CARTOONS and TEDDY BEARS!

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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2008, 03:26:00 PM »
Like it matters? If they're an apostate, someone will demand that they be killed.

For heaven's sake, these people riot over CARTOONS and TEDDY BEARS!

Yeah, except that this guy was an apostate apparently from the time he was 15.  His converting to Catholicism isn't a story about Muslims, it's a story about some immigrant who wasn't religious at all wanting to fit in with his adopted country (at least, that's what I know he used to say would lead him to become Catholic.)

I think the Muslim leader quoted in the OP's article had good advice for him-instead of grandstanding, maybe he should be meeting with his priest and quietly finding his way, if he's serious about being a religious Catholic.
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2008, 04:58:25 PM »
Like it matters? If they're an apostate, someone will demand that they be killed.

For heaven's sake, these people riot over CARTOONS and TEDDY BEARS!

Imagine what they'd do if they find out about fistful.....  shocked
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2008, 05:56:35 PM »
>Imagine what they'd do if they find out about fistful...<

Yes, but there's one difference: we wouldn't blame them for their reaction to fistful...

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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2008, 07:08:16 PM »
No, you would blame me.  But I'm not interested in Islamic fatwas, I want a WBC fatwa.   cheesy
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2008, 07:12:09 PM »
That's easy enough to arrange, bro. We just have to come up with a "compromising" pic of you to send to 'em... Tongue

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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2008, 07:19:07 PM »
Well, not that way.   smiley
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2008, 07:34:43 PM »
Like it matters? If they're an apostate, someone will demand that they be killed.

For heaven's sake, these people riot over CARTOONS and TEDDY BEARS!
  Just like Christians murder people over pictures of naked ladies and murder doctors helping women at Planned Parenthood clinics. 

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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2008, 07:43:51 PM »
Like it matters? If they're an apostate, someone will demand that they be killed.

For heaven's sake, these people riot over CARTOONS and TEDDY BEARS!
  Just like Christians murder people over pictures of naked ladies and murder doctors helping women at Planned Parenthood clinics. 

Yeah, I guess you didn't learn anything on your vacation, did you.

That was uncalled for and deeply insulting to a lot of people here.

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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2008, 07:59:48 PM »
And the comment about Muslims rioting over teddy bears was not?

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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2008, 08:35:31 PM »
Wait, Christians are murdering people over naked-lady pictures?  Where?  I want in! 

Huh?
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2008, 08:54:06 PM »
Long time ago in this country they would treat pornographers like that.  Artists and others who did not do thing in a manner the church approved of. 

Fistful my friend, you were truly born in the wrong time. 

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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2008, 09:03:33 PM »
Long time ago in this country they would treat pornographers like that.  Artists and others who did not do thing in a manner the church approved of. 

Links and evidence?   cheesy
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2008, 09:53:44 PM »
That was uncalled for and deeply insulting to a lot of people here. 

Meh.  Does anyone take him that seriously? 

But I kind of like the attempt to equate a blasphemous cartoon with an abortion.  Really thinking pretty far outside the box, on that one.   cheesy
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2008, 03:05:00 AM »
I thought everyone knew about the "Great Philadelphia Founding Father Model Riots" of 1786, in which a group of incensed Founding Fathers, let mainly by Button Gwinnet, converged on Charles Wilson Peale's and attempted to string him up for painting nude models.

What really got the crowd ticked was that he didn't paint nudes, he literally painted the nude models (leading to his invention of the Paint By Numbers kids several years later, by the way).

Given the nature of the times, everyone required their art to look as if it crap marble and spontaneously sing high Italian Opera, not look like some proto 1960 hippy reject.

Fortunately Mr. Peale was able to escape the mob and went to Italy, where he eventually fathered four sons -- Ruben, Rembrant, Raphaelle, and Titian -- which further incensed the mob... "You're an American! Name your kids after Americans!" one mobite was heard to yell, just moments before he was identified as John Singleton Copley and torn limb from limb...
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2008, 03:07:32 AM »
Like it matters? If they're an apostate, someone will demand that they be killed.

For heaven's sake, these people riot over CARTOONS and TEDDY BEARS!
  Just like Christians murder people over pictures of naked ladies and murder doctors helping women at Planned Parenthood clinics. 

Yeah.  Daily Christian suicide bombers are a plauge to the world! Nuke the Christians!
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2008, 03:12:39 AM »
No, bad spelling is a plague upon the world.

Nuke the baby Christians for phonics!
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2008, 04:24:39 AM »
Just like Christians murder people over pictures of naked ladies and murder doctors helping women at Planned Parenthood clinics.
I haven't heard anything about Christians killing people over dirty pictures lately.

But you also used the term "Just like" . . . Do you seriously equate things like Eric Rudolph's abortion clinic bombings - which took place a decade ago - to the daily instances of terrorism committed by islamofascists?
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2008, 04:26:10 AM »
Just like Christians murder people over pictures of naked ladies and murder doctors helping women at Planned Parenthood clinics.
I haven't heard anything about Christians killing people over dirty pictures lately.

But you also used the term "Just like" . . . Do you seriously equate things like Eric Rudolph's abortion clinic bombings - which took place a decade ago - to the daily instances of terrorism committed by islamofascists?

Yes, he does.

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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2008, 04:42:25 AM »
Just like Christians murder people over pictures of naked ladies and murder doctors helping women at Planned Parenthood clinics.
I haven't heard anything about Christians killing people over dirty pictures lately.

But you also used the term "Just like" . . . Do you seriously equate things like Eric Rudolph's abortion clinic bombings - which took place a decade ago - to the daily instances of terrorism committed by islamofascists?

You're all hypocrites if you can't see how much the modern christian faith is just like the modern islamaic faith!  Hypocrites!
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2008, 06:23:24 AM »
But you also used the term "Just like" . . . Do you seriously equate things like Eric Rudolph's abortion clinic bombings - which took place a decade ago - to the daily instances of terrorism committed by islamofascists? 


Well, he also equates "They're murdering babies, let's kill 'em!" with "They're drawing mean pictures of the Prophet, let's kill some folks!"  I'm not saying either one is OK, just sayin...
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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2008, 06:48:01 AM »
Are FATWA's ever successful?  I'd be more worried about a hit from the Irish mob.  laugh

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Re: How long to the next FATWA?
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2008, 06:51:25 AM »
Are FATWA's ever successful?  I'd be more worried about a hit from the Irish mob.  laugh

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