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McCain/Rice '08 ????
« on: April 06, 2008, 05:09:23 PM »
Hmm, this one certainly makes one pause and think!!
I'm not a big McCain fan..  but with Condi Rice as VP,
I might have to rethink my vote in November..
(Among other things, she's very pro-2A!! Interesting..)

More background: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/dan-senor-condo.html

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2008, 05:13:05 PM »
Ugh, no. I consider her to be someone who failed upwards.

All the opponent has to do is play her soundbite that "We never could have anticipated 9/11" at a time when it was in fact her job to do so, and such things had been part of scenarios and even popular fiction for years.

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 05:19:51 PM »
But she's black AND a woman.  WE CAN'T LOSE!

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2008, 05:29:04 PM »
she has way too much baggage as a part of the Bush administration to be a viable candidate for any elected position at the national level

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2008, 08:30:10 PM »
she has way too much baggage as a part of the Bush administration to be a viable candidate for any elected position at the national level


Which means she'll probably be the one picked for McCain's running mate.... undecided
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2008, 08:32:51 PM »
I also heard this on some radio show this evening.  Who is putting this out there? 
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2008, 08:36:53 PM »
Not a deal breaker either way with me, since McCain is going to be the lesser of two evils, but in the long run I think she actually could hurt McCain.

Too much baggage from Bush and in my opinion she isn't Presidential material.  Gotta remember that the VP is only one heart beat or one bullet away from being President.
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2008, 01:32:24 AM »
McCain will lose.....

McCain/Rice will lose even faster....

Best bet for VP would be either Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX) or Sara Palin (AK)....female, conservative, and popular with the GOP base.
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 04:59:27 AM »
Considering Rice has repeatedly and vehemently said she has no interest in running for POTUS or V/POTUS, this is likely just some reporter's attempt at conjuring a blockbuster story to sit under her byline.
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2008, 05:03:03 AM »
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McCain will lose.....

McCain/Rice will lose even faster....

Exactly right because nobody wants a Bush third term.  80% of the country thinks we're going in the wrong direction.

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2008, 05:36:27 AM »
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McCain will lose.....

McCain/Rice will lose even faster....

Exactly right because nobody wants a Bush third term.  80% of the country thinks we're going in the wrong direction.

You misinterpret that, or are falling for the liberal media's misinterpretation of that.

That can ALSO mean that people feel we're going away from morality, all sorts of things. It is in no way an endorsement of Hilbama's liberal agenda.

People are not saying "Yeah! We need weak defense and higher taxes!".

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 06:14:53 AM »
SHe was OK as NSC poo-bah.  She has been a disaster at State, having been co-opted by Dep State culture.
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2008, 06:30:43 AM »
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McCain will lose.....

McCain/Rice will lose even faster....

Exactly right because nobody wants a Bush third term.  80% of the country thinks we're going in the wrong direction.

80% of what sampling in what district?  And define "wrong direction"!  100% of Muslim Extrimists polled think this country is going in the wrong direction.
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2008, 06:40:01 AM »
The dollar's at an all time low.  Gas is at an all time high.  The American people have had enough of the Iraq occupation.  Bush's approval ratings continue to drop.  http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm
Unemployment is up.  Everything that should be up is down.  Everything that should be down is up.   

Yeah, that's the wrong direction.

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2008, 06:45:59 AM »
The dollar's at an all time low.  Gas is at an all time high.  The American people have had enough of the Iraq occupation.  Bush's approval ratings continue to drop.  http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm
Unemployment is up.  Everything that should be up is down.  Everything that should be down is up.   

Yeah, that's the wrong direction.

While your points are all correct, if you're referring to the same poll I heard on the News.....it said none of those things.  It only said 80% of Americans think we're heading in the wrong direction.
Again, I'd think that taking a poll that doesn't define which direction is the wrong direction, and using it to back up your own position, is the wrong direction for you......
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2008, 06:50:09 AM »
The dollar's at an all time low.  Gas is at an all time high.  The American people have had enough of the Iraq occupation.  Bush's approval ratings continue to drop.  http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm
Unemployment is up.  Everything that should be up is down.  Everything that should be down is up.   

Yeah, that's the wrong direction.
Most indicators (dollar value, gold price, gas prices, unemployment, etc.) headed south after the 2006 elections . . . when Democrats took both houses of Congress.

Obviously, it's all Bush's fault.

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They haven't learned their lessons, and are still behaving like "Democrat Party Lite" . . . hence their nickname, The Stupid Party.

Personally, even with a few stains on his reputation, I wouldn't mind seeing Newt Gingrich as VP . . . the GOP could do a lot worse . . . and probably will.
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2008, 07:02:52 AM »
I'm of the belief that neither party is taking the country in the right direction.
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2008, 07:03:16 AM »
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While your points are all correct, if you're referring to the same poll I heard on the News.....it said none of those things.  It only said 80% of Americans think we're heading in the wrong direction.
Again, I'd think that taking a poll that doesn't define which direction is the wrong direction, and using it to back up your own position, is the wrong direction for you......

Well, JJ, since I'm with the 80%, and we're the Deciders, it's you 20 percenters who are going in the wrong direction.

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2008, 07:24:18 AM »
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While your points are all correct, if you're referring to the same poll I heard on the News.....it said none of those things.  It only said 80% of Americans think we're heading in the wrong direction.
Again, I'd think that taking a poll that doesn't define which direction is the wrong direction, and using it to back up your own position, is the wrong direction for you......

Well, JJ, since I'm with the 80%, and we're the Deciders, it's you 20 percenters who are going in the wrong direction.

So, they polled the entire nation, right?  Every swinging dick and jane got a phone call from this polling agency?
 rolleyes
You're taking a page from Feinstien/Kennedy/Obama/Clinton, et al when you cite a vague poll from a limited sampling and use it to support your position.

But I'm sure Obama will deliver us from all that is evil.  Or Comrade Hillary. 
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2008, 07:42:38 AM »
You can sputter and fume and blame all you want JJ.  But that doesn't change the fact that the majority of voters are unhappy with the Bush administration and welcome its end.  They're also damned unhappy with Congress, BOTH Republicans and Democrats.  That means that change is likely ie., get rid of a Republican president and elect a Democrat.  We've got three, soon to be two, crappy candidates.  However, many people see a McCain presidency as a third Bush term, and nobody wants that.  You can bet the Dem candidate will make that crystal clear as McCain huffs and puffs in a frantic attempt to distance himself from Bush.

Now if you want to (try to) defend the Bush presidency, go ahead.  But don't make believe the American people are actually happy with him and anything to the contrary is just a liberal plot.   rolleyes

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2008, 07:44:18 AM »
Paddy, you mentioned Bush four times in that statement.

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2008, 07:54:45 AM »
Manedwolf, maybe I should keep count of your references, also.

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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2008, 09:07:12 AM »
You can sputter and fume and blame all you want JJ.  But that doesn't change the fact that the majority of voters are unhappy with the Bush administration and welcome its end.  They're also damned unhappy with Congress, BOTH Republicans and Democrats.  That means that change is likely ie., get rid of a Republican president and elect a Democrat.  We've got three, soon to be two, crappy candidates.  However, many people see a McCain presidency as a third Bush term, and nobody wants that.  You can bet the Dem candidate will make that crystal clear as McCain huffs and puffs in a frantic attempt to distance himself from Bush.

Now if you want to (try to) defend the Bush presidency, go ahead.  But don't make believe the American people are actually happy with him and anything to the contrary is just a liberal plot.   rolleyes

Apples and oranges.  I never once disagreed with your views on any of the idiots with an (R) or (D) after thier name.  However, I wholly disagree with how you're using an ambiguous poll of a limited sampling group to back up your views, and moreso, that you're using the same flawed poll to insist that 80% of people in this country agree with you.  Define the wrong direction?  The damn poll doesn't define it, so it could mean any number of things.  Maybe they sampled the members of the Westboro Baptist Church for all you know.
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Re: McCain/Rice '08 ????
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2008, 10:15:55 AM »
It's not 80%, his disapproval rating is only about 60%.

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