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Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« on: April 10, 2008, 10:21:26 PM »
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COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A couple arguing about which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join caused a public disturbance that resulted in the father's arrest, Commerce City police said Thursday, reported KMGH-TV in Denver.

On Saturday, Joseph Manzanares stormed into a video rental store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays and even a computer, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval said.

After he ran out of the store, police were called and the 19-year-old was arrested at his home.

His girlfriend told police that they had been arguing about the upbringing of their son and which gang he should belong to. The teen mother, who is black, told authorities she is a member of the Crips, police said. Manzanares is Hispanic and belongs to the Westside Ballers gang, the woman told police.

"They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said.

Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to the Adams County Detention Facility.

On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to 12 months of probation and ordered to pay $835 in court costs, according to the Denver Post. The misdemeanor harassment charge was dropped.

http://www.kctv5.com/news/15851623/detail.html
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2008, 10:59:39 PM »
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2008, 11:06:22 PM »
Well the child is 4 now and the "father" is 19, no mention of the age of the mother but at least we know he has fathered at least one child when he was 14 or 15.  I imagine the mother is about the same age.

Be interesting to see how much of a rival of one another these gangs are.  Could see some gang on gang violence erupt in Commerce City.

From what I remember of Commerce, it is a small town about half way between Denver and Colorado Springs.
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2008, 11:59:41 PM »
Crips or Ballers, Montague or Capulet...decisions, decisions.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2008, 01:08:18 AM »
I'd go for the Crips myself, more brand name recognition...  laugh
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2008, 01:12:06 AM »
Crips or Ballers, Montague or Capulet...decisions, decisions.


....and it will probably end as well for all involved.....
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2008, 02:12:19 AM »
Gangs?  In Colorado? shocked rolleyes

What are the gangs in Red?  The Six Toes?  The One Tooths?  The Lillies? cheesy grin
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 02:51:02 AM »
That is a blood line that needs to end.
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 03:39:27 AM »
Examples of an urban problem that was accurately predicted a generation ago: feral youthangry
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2008, 03:53:17 AM »
I don't think feral youth are anything new at all. What you have now is feral youth breeding feral youth. How low can you go?
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 04:20:23 AM »
Child protection takes the kid, mandatory sterilization for the parents. Tongue

As to feral youth, if this keeps up, they're going to have to re-legalize full-autos. Because that'll be the only way to see off entire gangs that suddenly swarm people like a group of hyenas.

Thankfully, though, they're mostly focusing on killing each other before they reach age 20.


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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2008, 04:26:33 AM »
Gangs are why I feel under gunned with only my 642 S&W.
I've seen 40 to 0ver one hundred gang members swarming in attack on one or two people in the 1980's in NYC.
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2008, 04:42:36 AM »
I don't think feral youth are anything new at all. What you have now is feral youth breeding feral youth. How low can you go?

In this case, could you really consider them feral?  After all, here we have a primitive custodial dispute between two rival tribes...

The fact that the mother was allowed to live indicates some progress.  Wink

Now, the fact that they feel the need to belong to what's essentially a sub-tribe rather than holding to family/state/country is a problem.

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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2008, 07:08:51 AM »
And peak of the bell curve continues to skew further and further left...

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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2008, 07:21:59 AM »
And peak of the bell curve continues to skew further and further left...

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Darwin was derailed when the laws started punishing the victims more than the criminals.

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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2008, 11:35:30 AM »
so now we have children who are entitled to do a drive by on themselves?
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2008, 11:39:57 AM »
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Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to executed at the Adams County Detention Facility.
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2008, 12:37:25 PM »
It's like Lord of the Flies....
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2008, 12:52:30 PM »
And peak of the bell curve continues to skew further and further left...

Darwin - where are ya when we really need ya?

Darwin was derailed when the laws started punishing the victims more than the criminals.

It has nothing to do with morality. As long as there's enough food, the average age of reproduction for a species or a community is lower than the average age one is removed from the gene pool, in this case, death or incarceration, it will thrive.

Large segments of the population have also divested themselves of two parents being needed to raise offspring "successfully" at least by their standards.

I think it's a misconception that evolution micro or macro strives for perfection, all that is required is adequacy to the biological challenge at hand and passage of genes. Good enough truly is the enemy of best.
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2008, 01:01:50 PM »
Child protection takes the kid, mandatory sterilization for the parents. Tongue




errr, actually child protection would be able to take the whole happy family if this happened a two years ago.

and speaking of parents, where are the grandparents? or should i just not bother?
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2008, 04:40:53 PM »
I'd go for the Crips myself, more brand name recognition...  laugh

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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2008, 06:38:39 PM »
It's like Lord of the Flies....

More like West Side Story, if Whatshisname and Maria survived and had a kid. 
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2008, 06:49:26 PM »
They care about their son's future, like yuppie parents plan for college.   What's wrong with that?


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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2008, 06:57:24 PM »
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From what I remember of Commerce, it is a small town about half way between Denver and Colorado Springs.

Foolish nave, that would be Larkspur.  Home of Good King Henry's summer festival and Tournament of Arms.

Ghetto Del Comercio lies just west of the old Rocky Mountain Arsenal site and is home to may fine upstanding meth heads, gangbangers, undocumented laborers and the many litters of spawn.  I'm not overly surprised that such occurred in that burg, only that its FINALLY made national news.  rolleyes
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Re: Police: Couple Feuds Over Toddler's Gang
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2008, 07:26:19 PM »
Why do I have visions of the kid doing drive-bys on his Big Wheel Huh??

Because they probably train him to do so...
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