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Obama Is the One Only Naive Liberals Have Been Waiting For
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Obama Is the One Only Naive Liberals Have Been Waiting For
Barack Obama sometimes utters the cryptic line, We are the ones we have been waiting for.
People faint. And the pied piper moves on to the next state, piping his new age political con to the swooning throngs who believe in&what, exactly? All we see is liberalism wrapped in rhetoric that tries to hide that liberalism, disguise or deny it. Oh, and change. We mustnt forget the ultimate raison detre of Obamas campaign.
Big cons, even those masquerading as political campaigns, are complex endeavors, with many intricate moving parts, most of which are unseen or ignored, as intended. But if you dont win, its all just a show. Rock stars pack stadiums, not voting booths.
Lets play a little game, shall we? Lets call it How Does Obama beat John McCain. Lets use some exit poll data from the Pennsylvania Democratic Primary. Lets acknowledge that the methodology is beyond flawed, but so, too, have been the results of many polls and prognostications, with far greater pretenses to legitimacy. At least we acknowledge that we are engaging in political card counting coupled with voodoo political analysis.
In Pennsylvania, among white voters, Obama lost in every age category, by four points from ages 18 to 29, by 16 points from 30 to 44, by 26 points from 45 to 59, and by a staggering 36 points from 60 and older voters. (White voters from ages 18 to 29 comprised only 8 percent of the total vote. Whites over 45 comprised 58%.)
Only among black voters between the ages of 45-59 was there enough of a sample to derive numbers, and Obama took 85% of those, winning 90% of all blacks. Blacks between the ages of 18 to 44 comprised 7% of the total vote.
Not enough Latinos voted to obtain a sample.
By religion, Obama lost among Protestants by 10 points, among Jews by 24 points and among Catholics by a staggering 40 points. He won among those of other religion by 16 points and by those of no religion by 24 points.
He lost in all education categories by significant percentages, except for college graduates whom he won by 2 points. Remarkably, however, he lost voters with postgraduate educations by 6 points.
Obama lost among voters in every income category except those who make less than $15,000 (which he won by 6 points), those who make between $150,000 and $200,000 (which he tied) and those making more than $200,000 (which he won by 14 points).
Those are the absolute bedrock categories of voters race, age, education, income, religion, and the percentages of each will vary by state and by general election voters as opposed to primary voters. There are obviously errors in the data, but those errors do not advantage Obama, given the Obama Effect, wherein some voters tell exit pollsters they voted for him when they clearly did not.
Pennsylvania was a Democratic Party Primary, but it was hard fought over a protracted period of time, with Obama outspending Clinton by at least two to one, probably more. The demographic results were similar to those of Ohio and other states, indicating that in large industrial states (excepting his home state of Illinois) Obama is now locked in a narrow base of support which he seems unable to meaningfully expand.
Democratic Party Primary voters are the best that Obama will face, regardless of state. Why, for example, would General Election Catholics favor Obama more than Democratic Primary Catholics? Even among blacks, Obamas staggering and understandable support is at its apex and will be offset, to some extent, in states with high Latino populations.
But the numbers from Pennsylvania reflect only Obama versus Clinton, not Obama versus McCain, many will say. Yeah, well weigh the comparative negative baggage. Use any scale you want, and you cannot come up with McCains being heavier than Clintons, for the general election. In the Pennsylvania vote by ideology, Obama lost in every category except very liberal.
Remind yourself that the General Election is not a national election, but a combination of state elections, with relatively few true battleground states, of which Pennsylvania and Ohio are among the necessities. When Must Win states become Cant Win states, well, even congenital liars like Hillary Clinton can sometimes find the truth.
Also remind yourself that Obamas negative baggage is only now beginning to be understood. Pastor Wright and Professor William Ayers (not to mention Ayers wife, Bernadine Dohrn) arent going away. Neither is Minister Farrakhan. How many voters know that Obama marched in Minister Farrakhans Million Man March? Right, we didnt think so.
Only this week did ads start running that begin to explore Obamas voting record in the Illinois legislature (ExposeObama.com). His record as a Member of the Board of Directors of two far left foundations is only now coming under scrutiny, with Politico.com investigating grants to anti-gun groups. There will be more, much more. Visualize the ad that says atheists love Obama. The General Election is not played in the Powder Puff League.
So how does Obama beat John McCain? You do your own voodoo analysis. Ours says he cant.
El Tejon:
"We are the ones we are waiting for".
Man, did I hear that over and over in Chicago. I'm my own messiah and it's all about me.
The Annoyed Man:
Wow. More spittle flying character assassination coming from the right. I suppose we can expect this barrage of vitriol to continue nonstop right up to election day. Everybody's coordinated and on the same page though. Listen to rightwing talkradio and you'll hear Limbaugh/Hannity and their sycophants all spewing the same personal attacks down to the exact words.
Why not discuss issues or promote your candidate? Because the right is on the wrong side of most issues, and when McCain is your candidate......well.....there's nothing there to promote.
This kind of discourse makes me ashamed/embarrassed I was, and voted, Republican.
Glock Glockler:
Why not discuss issues...
Why should we? Obama stays clear away from issues like the plague, he just talks about Change and Hope, so why can't I talk about him talking about Change and Hope?
grampster:
--- Quote from: Paddy on April 25, 2008, 10:05:01 AM ---Wow. More spittle flying character assassination coming from the right. I suppose we can expect this barrage of vitriol to continue nonstop right up to election day. Everybody's coordinated and on the same page though. Listen to rightwing talkradio and you'll hear Limbaugh/Hannity and their sycophants all spewing the same personal attacks down to the exact words.
Why not discuss issues or promote your candidate? Because the right is on the wrong side of most issues, and when McCain is your candidate......well.....there's nothing there to promote.
Paddy, If you were being honest, it would be very easy to substitute left and leftwing and name the usual lefty talking heads to your comments above and it would then be a snarky comment from the right. You actually are doing and have done the same thing you accuse your opponents of.
Define for us the difference between Democrat and Republican as they are today, Paddy. It'd be pretty hard to do. If you were being productive in your thinking you'd be attempting to convince the elitist political class that they needed to begin to think more about how America can continue to exist as a free nation governed by its citizens and not a nation of sheep being ruled over by The Enlightened. Every chance I have, I politely remind our elected officials that we do not serve the State, the State serves us. Most of those who step forward seem either to have forgotten that or soon do after being elected. Therein lies the danger, sir. At least, for my part, I'm an American who believes that some government can be helpful, but a lot of it can be downright oppressive. Looking at it from that perspective, those leaning toward the right are on the freedom side of the issues; personal responsibility vs oppressive laws; low taxes, infrequent and careful government regulation vs confisticatory taxation and obstructionist regulation; free trade vs government support of bad policy; and the list goes on. Oppression can occur if the right goes too right. It seems to me that the left gets further left and oppressive quicker and more insidiously though.
I have not read anything from you that would be considered productive. Only ranting and railing. I've found myself in that spot many times. It takes one to know one, so I'm not calling the kettle black here, you old fart!
Several years ago, I got involved in local politics and was elected to office, served my time, broke down some barriers, took away some stupid rules and lowered spending, and I still serve on appointed township and county boards; appointed by people who don't like me very well, but know that I'm effective at what I do. That makes them nervous and they hold me close, and by doing that, I help make them do the right thing. Twisted, but that's the way it works. I have annoyed more than one ahole (I'm sorry, there is just not a better descriptive adjective) who used his office for personal gain. Unfortunately, I got smart too late in life. I should have gotten involved sooner. If I had, I may have even been able to get elected to higher office. That would have been interesting.
You know as well as I do that the Democrats are no solution to anything. Only more obstructionism and socialism. Virtually everyone that aspires to a higher office today is at least honest about their ambition, which is to get the government more involved in our lives. So far, there has been very little about that ambition that has served us well.
I'm pretty much tired of listening to your negativism and accusatory rhetoric as I am of the same rhetoric on the right. One of the benefits of age is supposedly being able to separate the wheat from the chaff. I think I am able to do that, while still recognizing my own failings, pretty well.
What I see is a lot of BS on both sides of the aisle which fails to grasp and discuss that which is truly the single largest issue that faces us today; that is the cost, type, availability and location of energy that fires up freedom and trade. Confront that issue honestly, and put aside all the BS and crap science, and move forward on that issue, all of the other perceived problems will solve themselves.
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