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One at a time on the runway!
« on: May 16, 2008, 06:29:07 AM »


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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 06:30:45 AM »
Local news was carrying video of it this morning.   

The descriptor under it???

"Plane on plane."

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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 06:42:01 AM »
Hey this is supposed to be a family site. laugh
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 06:56:22 AM »
Shouldn't talk on the cellphone while driving the plane.  laugh
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 06:58:41 AM »
I suspect the pilot of one plane will be facing an unsmiling review board, and the pilot of the other needs new pants. Depending on whose fault it was. (taxiing out onto the active before clearance, taxiing onto the wrong runway, landing without clearance or or landing on the wrong runway, it depends)

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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 07:09:57 AM »
There is no "clearance" - it is an uncontrolled airport where you are supposed to announce yourself and monitor a specific radio frequency.
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 07:14:04 AM »
Clarence obviously didn't have clearance.
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2008, 07:15:40 AM »
There is no "clearance" - it is an uncontrolled airport where you are supposed to announce yourself and monitor a specific radio frequency.

Oops. No-tower airstrip?

Not really used to those. smiley

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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 07:47:00 AM »
many of the busier fields are no tower   can get exciting
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 08:34:28 AM »
Obviously someone wasn't using 122.8 like they were supposed to be.

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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2008, 08:40:25 AM »
Clarence obviously didn't have clearance.
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2008, 09:35:01 AM »
I suddenly have this urge to watch movies about gladiators...

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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2008, 01:47:33 PM »
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Not really used to those.

Uncontrolled/no tower airports are extremely common.

The system works well if everybody does what they are supposed to be doing and maintains situational awareness.

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Obviously someone wasn't using 122.8 like they were supposed to be.

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Except CTAF for Northwest Regional Airport is 122.9. So using 122.8 would have no effect in this case.







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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2008, 01:50:14 PM »
.8, .9, whatever it takes.

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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 02:09:35 PM »
I suspect the pilot of one plane will be facing an unsmiling review board, and the pilot of the other needs new pants. Depending on whose fault it was. (taxiing out onto the active before clearance, taxiing onto the wrong runway, landing without clearance or or landing on the wrong runway, it depends)

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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2008, 02:13:04 PM »
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2008, 02:20:00 PM »
You just can't trust tricycle gears to keep their propellors to themselves  sad
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2008, 04:16:11 PM »
Is this how Cessnas are born?.... Wink
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2008, 05:00:02 PM »
Is this how Cessnas are born?.... Wink

Pats head.. No son, that's Conceived.... You mean conceived.   grin

Clarence obviously didn't have clearance.
Roger Over.

Or Victor didn't have his vector...
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2008, 06:41:39 PM »
What is that plane on the bottom?  An old Aeronca or Stimson maybe...?

I guess it could be a C-140 or C-170.  Doesn't quite look like a Cessna to me though.
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2008, 08:18:44 PM »
Can you imagine when the pilots realized it became an "OH S**T!" moment.
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2008, 08:04:24 AM »
I think it's a Taylorcraft, and it looks like it's pilot's going to get a big hit in the wallet come insurance renewal time.
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2008, 11:25:16 AM »
From the plane on top.

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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2008, 01:00:26 PM »
N-number for bottom plane, a near as I can make out: NC6805M.

Stinson 108 Voyager (I was wrong, not a T-craft)

Owned by  guy out of Ft. Worth.

Flying it just got a bit more expensive. That sucks.
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Re: One at a time on the runway!
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2008, 05:13:29 AM »
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Stinson 108 Voyager

So I was pretty close on my first guess Smiley


Oh, and this:

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