Author Topic: Obama wants the UN to control your thermostat, too? Or how much you eat?  (Read 14718 times)

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When I lived in AZ in the 1960s all we had was swamp coolers.


I wonder how O'Bama is going to control how much wood I put in my woodstove Huh?  Maybe he's going to ban chainsaws, too  rolleyes
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I wonder how O'Bama is going to control how much wood I put in my woodstove   Maybe he's going to ban chainsaws, too

Probably some sort of genious move like prohibiting the logging of dead trees in National Forests.  That way it can burn on the ground and burn down live trees as well, rather than burning usefully and safely in your fireplace at home.

Or, requiring a logging permit that costs more in the end than buying wood from some guy.  You know, that permit would save 18.6 children a piece.  And rain forests... you can't forget rain forests.  Probably .742 acres per permit.   grin
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Charby, during the summer in Arizona, the heat will kick in your door and knock you over the head.  The most uncomfortable I have been has been at Gunsite in August.  I've had the hotel AC at 55 and slept without my shirt. 

In deep winter where we are you can add clothing, go exercise, throw a log on the fire or turn up the heat.  There is no escape from that kind of heat.

Yup. I lived in Nevada for the first 18 years of my life.  Still go down to visit the folks every once in a while.

The summers don't get quite as bad as down in Arizona, but it's close.  Walking outside during the sumer feels like walking into a furnace.  I remember mowing the lawn once in 111 degree heat; damn near got heat exhaustion (which wouldn't have been the first time, actually -- I had previously succumbed to heat exhaustion while playing baseball in little league).

I've seen outdoor plastic thermometers melt in that kind of heat.

Every May or so we'd put a very large air conditioner unit in the upstairs and downstairs windows.  Then we'd run them damn near nonstop until late September.  It was the only way to escape the heat.

Recently, my folks had a vent-less central A/C unit installed, so they didn't have to install the window units every year (they're getting old, and those window units are not light).
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Probably some sort of genious move like prohibiting the logging of dead trees in National Forests.

There's no National Forest within 50 miles of where I live.  All my wood comes off private property (my own and neighbors who let me cut on their place).

I've cut several big dead trees within 100' of my house this spring.
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Probably some sort of genious move like prohibiting the logging of dead trees in National Forests.

There's no National Forest within 50 miles of where I live.  All my wood comes off private property (my own and neighbors who let me cut on their place).

I've cut several big dead trees within 100' of my house this spring.

They'll ban that too.

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The U.S. consumes "disproportionately" (according to Obamaism).  It also, of course, produces "disproportionately," accounting for the arguably the lion's share of what we can term "the modern industrial world."  Obama is a starry-eyed messiah blundering into an area he clearly doesn't understand: economics.

As for our profligate thermostats, a goodly chunk of this country would be only semi-habitable and certainly less than efficiently productive without air conditioning and good heating.  The American people are tolerating the blandishments of the new Religion of Climate Change only because, so far, they have not had to pay the inevitably brutal price of all of this unctuous silliness.
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Obama is a starry-eyed messiah blundering into an area he clearly doesn't understand: economics.

Which is exactly why it's critical that McCain win.  rolleyes

They're both freaking disasters, longeyes.

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I'm no big McCain fan but McCain at least buys us some time to figure out a strategy to save the Republic.  Obama Unbound will offer us very few choices if he operates as we all fear he will. 
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I'm no big McCain fan but McCain at least buys us some time to figure out a strategy to save the Republic.  Obama Unbound will offer us very few choices if he operates as we all fear he will.

No, all McCain does is dig us deeper into the hole Bush started.  Obama is destructive, but at least in a different direction.

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So, we kill ourselves either way.  Fantastic. 

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They'll ban that too.

You can have my STIHL when you pry it from my cold dead hands  laugh
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They'll ban that too.

You can have my STIHL when you pry it from my cold dead hands  laugh
But you'll have to get my boomstick first.  Who wants a little?
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I'm no big McCain fan but McCain at least buys us some time to figure out a strategy to save the Republic.  Obama Unbound will offer us very few choices if he operates as we all fear he will. 

McCain won't buy us any time.....but Obama (who's first & only term will make Carter look like Reagan) will hopefully give conservatives the impetus to take back the GOP and get a real candidate in for the 2012 elections....
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Sorry, don't count on me to help put an Obama into office in the hope that conservatives will wake up.  My own view is that there are no longer enough conservatives or are likely to be ever again to "take back America."  If we want to preserve political liberty we will have to find a way to create ramparts around our political cosm and/or take the game somewhere else.

I consider Obama only to be a likely catalyst for civil war, not reconciliation.  That may be inevitable but it's not something any of us should want to encourage, much less rush into. 
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I'm no big McCain fan but McCain at least buys us some time to figure out a strategy to save the Republic.  Obama Unbound will offer us very few choices if he operates as we all fear he will. 

McCain won't buy us any time.....but Obama (who's first & only term will make Carter look like Reagan) will hopefully give conservatives the impetus to take back the GOP and get a real candidate in for the 2012 elections....

You can't renovate the house by scattering gasoline and lighting a match. That's what he'd do.

I really don't want terrorist attacks brought on by weak policies, and a total economic collapse and chaos accompanied by a lack of defensive firearms because they've been taken away. Do you?

Obama would completely and totally screw up foreign policy by legitimizing the rule of dictators. He'd be an impediment to fed-up Iranians throwing out their crazed leader, whom they're angry at for isolating them from the world, driving up prices of everything.

He'd ruin the economy with pushes for and signing idiotic Democrat policies that would punish the upper middle and upper class investors and small business owners, pushing for socialism, driving out investors to invest overseas instead. People wouldn't be able to afford to run a business here anymore due to the ridiculous "share with the people who don't want to work" crap they'd try all over again. The economy would pull an Argentina.

He'd encourage and sign everything from an AWB to national firearms registration.

I don't want that. You can't go back from registration, especially. Once they have that, it's there.

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You can't renovate the house by scattering gasoline and lighting a match. That's what he'd do.

I really don't want terrorist attacks brought on by weak policies, and a total economic collapse and chaos accompanied by a lack of defensive firearms because they've been taken away. Do you?

Obama would completely and totally screw up foreign policy by legitimizing the rule of dictators. He'd be an impediment to fed-up Iranians throwing out their crazed leader, whom they're angry at for isolating them from the world, driving up prices of everything.

He'd ruin the economy with pushes for and signing idiotic Democrat policies that would punish the upper middle and upper class investors and small business owners, pushing for socialism, driving out investors to invest overseas instead. People wouldn't be able to afford to run a business here anymore due to the ridiculous "share with the people who don't want to work" crap they'd try all over again. The economy would pull an Argentina.

He'd encourage and sign everything from an AWB to national firearms registration.

I don't want that. You can't go back from registration, especially. Once they have that, it's there.

And McCain won't sign any or all of those things?....  undecided

If the house is too far gone, you have to demolish it...and a controlled burn is the most effective way.....
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And a controlled burn means what exactly...?

I think it's more realistic to try and cordon off what we can while we can. 
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I'm no big McCain fan but McCain at least buys us some time to figure out a strategy to save the Republic.  Obama Unbound will offer us very few choices if he operates as we all fear he will. 

McCain won't buy us any time.....but Obama (who's first & only term will make Carter look like Reagan) will hopefully give conservatives the impetus to take back the GOP and get a real candidate in for the 2012 elections....

You can't renovate the house by scattering gasoline and lighting a match. That's what he'd do.

I really don't want terrorist attacks brought on by weak policies, and a total economic collapse and chaos accompanied by a lack of defensive firearms because they've been taken away. Do you?

Obama would completely and totally screw up foreign policy by legitimizing the rule of dictators. He'd be an impediment to fed-up Iranians throwing out their crazed leader, whom they're angry at for isolating them from the world, driving up prices of everything.

He'd ruin the economy with pushes for and signing idiotic Democrat policies that would punish the upper middle and upper class investors and small business owners, pushing for socialism, driving out investors to invest overseas instead. People wouldn't be able to afford to run a business here anymore due to the ridiculous "share with the people who don't want to work" crap they'd try all over again. The economy would pull an Argentina.

He'd encourage and sign everything from an AWB to national firearms registration.

I don't want that. You can't go back from registration, especially. Once they have that, it's there.
I agree with you, but I think the worst part would be that BHO would saddle us with more social programs like all of the other great three-letter presidents, FDR, JFK, LBJ.  Once established, entitlements become rights and never go away, no matter how inefficient or detrimental to the overall economy they are.  I can't imagine how many more 'third rails' (social security, medicare, medicaid) BHO will lay down.

No matter who comes after him, the toothpaste won't go back in the tube.
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Time better spent would be trying to figure out how to dismantle the existing third rails.
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In a speech just now, he talked about "The Americas", not America. He said "What is good for The Americas is good for the United States". He used imagery like "the security of a policeman in Mexico City" as being important to us.

So. We're supposed to throw our lot in with narco-states, banana republics, and tinpot socialists?

We're going to need more ammo if he wins. Especially before he gets it banned. Tongue

Between a Democrat congress and him, America will BREAK. And I mean wheels flying off, smoke pouring out broken. Like nothing anyone has ever seen since the Great Depression.

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He wants to be Che.  He's already got the poster.

Seeker_two, I meant, of course, what do you intend by a "political" controlled burn?  That's a metaphor for what?
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We cant drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times & and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK, Obama said.
The nerve! This statement disturbs me on so many levels...
CA state nanny-ism attempting to go national.
The idea that what we work for, what we earn the right to, somehow deprives others.
The concept that we somehow have to have permission from other countries to do anything in our own.
The absurd notion that we should feel guilty for what we have, what we work for and what we acquire.
The palpable contempt evident for capitalism and consumers.

How dare he try to tell us what we can and cannot do. Scary that he might be put in a position to somewhat be able to.

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I was set to be all smug because I don't have a thermostat (electric heat, each ceiling panel and basement unit is controlled from an individual or area dial).  Then I realized he'll probably just ban my house.  Of course the house is a relic of a different era.  Bomb shelter in the basement,  and mostly electric, designed with the expectation of endless, cheap nuclear power.