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Positive Prius Review
« on: June 01, 2008, 03:06:55 PM »
FYI, if you are a Car Guy, and you don't read Car Lust Blog (http://www.carlustblog.com/), You Are Wrong.

Anyways, the carlustblog.com's author writes a positive review of the Prius, in the way only he can

There are lots of links, so it is worth it to mash the link & red it as originally published, too.

Car Lust--Toyota Prius
by Chris Hafner on May 30, 2008

Prius1 In most car enthusiast circles, admitting affection for a Toyota Prius is like putting a "Kick Me" sign on your own back. While I like the Prius, I can understand the antipathy.

I've read an amusing description of the Prius that describes it as powered by a small gasoline engine, an electric motor, and its owners' smug sense of superiority. Fair or not, for many people who love cars, the Prius has become a symbol both of people who hate cars and of haughty environmental elitism. The Prius, as the most famous and visible hybrid, also takes a lot of the heat for the fact that hybrids often are overly expensive, complex, use lots of environmentally unfriendly batteries, and tend not to live up to their EPA mileage estimates. Given the fact that a decade-old Geo Metro can match the Prius' mileage without a massive environmentally unfriendly battery pack, there is a perception that hybrids (and, by association, the Prius) are more a symbol of environmentalism than a useful way to save gas.

Prius2 I don't really subscribe to either the viewpoint that the Prius and other hybrids are environmental saviors, or symbols of elitism and hypocrisy. I like hybrid technology--the idea of recouping energy lost in braking is pretty cool, and I think plug-in hybrids have some interesting potential. And, really, it's not fair for the Prius to carry all of that pro- and anti-hybrid baggage. It should be judged on its own merits, and on its own merits I find the Prius to be a pretty compelling car.

I'm on the record for being a sucker for bloated five-doors, like the early 1980s Saab 900 five-door, the Dodge Colt Vista and (shudder) the Suzuki Aerio, and like those cars the Prius combines a smoothly sloping roofline, the usefulness of four doors, and the extreme utility of a hatchback to carry people and cargo with ease. Its shape is geeky and bulbous in true five-door hatchback style, with a gawky but adorable face and clean lines. Its grinning "face," lots of glass, and oversized headlights and taillights give the impression of a cheerful car. I like it in the same way I like the AMC Pacer. Oh, and the small clear glass section in the tailgate that supposedly improves rear visibility is a nice little nod to the second-gen Honda CRX.

Prius4 The Prius doesn't offer a whole lot to people who really enjoy the pure act of driving. A co-worker of mine once made the amazing comment that driving a Dodge Dynasty was like "driving a pie." Well, driving a Prius is like driving an iPod. While it doesn't offer any visceral thrills, it's still pretty interesting.

Why? Well, for one thing, it's genuinely cool to be able to drive just on battery power alone. The first few times you do it, the silence is so eerie to be almost Kubrickian. Then, too, it's fun to watch on the central screen how the energy is flowing between the engine, the battery, the electric motor, and the driving wheels. It's like a video game where the objective is to maximize your energy--not quite the same as driving quickly, but since I'm a bit of a video game nerd I was pretty engrossed. The start-up and shut-down procedure also seems willfully obtuse--it takes a little bit of getting used to and adds a slightly exotic feel to driving the car.

Toyota intelligently clued into the fact that not all consumers who want a small car want a cheap penalty box. In fact, some are willing to pay a fair amount of money for high-level options. Touch-screen navigation, Bluetooth, leather, and a six-disc in-dash CD changer are all available on a Prius, which sets the Prius apart from other smallish cars and adds an additional technological sheen to the experience. The car-lover purist in me rebels at the idea of the technology being more important than the visceral driving experience, but at least it makes the car interesting.

Prius3Francophiles everywhere will no doubt be pursuing me with torches and pitchforks for this, but the Prius feels to me like a modern-day Americanized Citroen. In fact, that probably explains a lot of why I like it. The tall, slab-sided wagon body and tiny wheels remind me for some reason of the Citroen 2CV, and the bizarre dashboard and intentionally opaque controls evoke the Citroen CX's equally otherworldly interior. It's easy to forget, since Priii are everywhere, but the Prius is a very quirky car--as quirky as a Citroen. All it's missing is an overly complicated air suspension system.

One quirk that I hate is the center-mounted instrument panel. I hate it in the Saturn Ion, I hate it in the Toyota Echo, and I hate it in the Prius. It's a distraction, and I loathe the empty expanse of dashboard right in front of the driver.

My wife and I were shopping for a family car a few years ago, and effort that eventually led to us buying our used Accord. My extensive shopping list included such disparate cars as the Prius and the Dodge Magnum R/T Hemi. The hybrid system made the Prius just a little too expensive for what you get, but if Toyota made a cheaper version with a conventional powertrain, perhaps a turbo four or a small but torquey V-6, there's an outside chance that I'd be a Prius driver today, and receiving even more abuse from my friends than I already do.

I added the commercial below for two reasons--it references Fresno, and because it has the bizarre but difficult-to-shake vision of a lot of cows hooked up in unfortunate fashion to a methane-collection bag. Weird.

--Chris H.

"I like it in the same way I like the AMC Pacer. "

Heh.


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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2008, 03:20:18 PM »
Seems to me I read a report that the Honda Hybrid was not selling nearly as well as the Prius..

The Accord hybrid does not look any different than a normal accord, yet the Prius stands out, so I believe that people buy it to look like they actually care about the enviroment. They sure don't use much brains in choosing them, that's for sure...

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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2008, 04:39:08 PM »
I go out of my way to get next to Priuses (whats the plural of prius anyway?) at lights and do this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fMGQOk4vOzE&feature=related

Eat smoke, eviro-weenies.

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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2008, 05:09:17 PM »
Well, that's remarkably mature, isn't it?  rolleyes
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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2008, 05:43:10 PM »
I never suggested it was  laugh

I happen to live near/work in the town that is home to the MOST LIBERAL college east of Berkeley.  Oberlin is crawling with socialist greenies.  I also make it a point to stand on the throttle when they are protesting the war too.

It may be immature, but it's definitely fair payback for the bullcrap I have to endure when college is in session.

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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2008, 06:29:34 PM »
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A co-worker of mine once made the amazing comment that driving a Dodge Dynasty was like "driving a pie."

That was just funny in a surreal manner for some reason.

I've compared some domestic cars to trying to drive a toolshed, and a loaner Pontiac Sunfire just caused incoherent rage, but "driving a pie"?

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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2008, 06:39:51 PM »
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I happen to live near/work in the town that is home to the MOST LIBERAL college east of Berkeley.

You live in Madison, too?  shocked

Dunno what I'd do if somebody diesel-smoked me.  I know when I lived in Kalifornia I could call the smog police and report gross polluters by license plate number.   grin
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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2008, 06:50:23 PM »

Saw a Prius yesterday with a personalized license plate reading "SMUG CLB"    smiley

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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2008, 08:21:21 PM »
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I happen to live near/work in the town that is home to the MOST LIBERAL college east of Berkeley.  Oberlin is crawling with socialist greenies.

Pfffft!  Not even the Most Liberal college town in Ohio!  Try Yellow Springs, home of Antioch College, which makes Oberlin look like Brigham Young.  At least with your smug liberals you can point to the Amish in their buggies and say, "Yeah, but they're greener than you'll ever be".   laugh
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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2008, 08:09:01 AM »
Seems to me I read a report that the Honda Hybrid was not selling nearly as well as the Prius..

The Accord hybrid does not look any different than a normal accord, yet the Prius stands out, so I believe that people buy it to look like they actually care about the enviroment. They sure don't use much brains in choosing them, that's for sure...

May not be the case as the Prius has really been the best hybrid choice out there for most consumers. Certainly the best mileage choice if in-town, stop/go makes up the majority of a person's driving.

Honda's hybrids have been disappointing. The Insight was a fuel miser, but also a two seater with low weight limits. The Accord Hybrid uses it's IMA system more like an electric supercharger than a fuel saver and barely got better real world mileage than it's non-hybrid variant. The Civic Hybrid is close (trading off city for highway mileage) but it's slower, smaller, has a less useful body configuration, and is just as expensive. It does look better though.

Closest Prius competitor is the Camry Hybrid variant. In return for a 20% decrease in fuel economy and a higher sticker, you get more space and more power. Most consumers don't need either, but it's a fair compromise and Camry Hybrid sales numbers are reasonable at ~ 1/3 of Prius sales numbers.

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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2008, 08:14:21 AM »
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I happen to live near/work in the town that is home to the MOST LIBERAL college east of Berkeley.  Oberlin is crawling with socialist greenies.

Pfffft!  Not even the Most Liberal college town in Ohio!  Try Yellow Springs, home of Antioch College, which makes Oberlin look like Brigham Young.  At least with your smug liberals you can point to the Amish in their buggies and say, "Yeah, but they're greener than you'll ever be".   laugh


thats great  laugh

Having never been on Antioch's campus, I can't comment, but our greenies are left of Lenin.  You ought to see some of the speakers and events they have at this place!

On another note, Oberlin does have one of the best conservatory programs in the country, which is pretty cool.

Anywho, sorry for the threadjack.

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Re: Positive Prius Review
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 11:55:14 PM »
I go out of my way to get next to Priuses (whats the plural of prius anyway?) at lights and do this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fMGQOk4vOzE&feature=related

Eat smoke, eviro-weenies.

Some ass wipe did that to me last summer.  I was nicely dressed in a suit and probably on my way to the courthouse or a meeting.  I had my window down because my A/C was broken and it was about 130 degrees in my car.  All of a sudden the silver Dodge pickup next to me just unloaded black smoke into my window.  I couldn't breath or see where I was going, but as the light had just turned green I had to go and it was the only way to get the smoke out.  Even though it was a Dodge, I suspect this was intentional.  At that moment I learned the true meaning of road rage and prayed for an RPG to magically appear in my possession.  angry  Then I calmed myself and drove on, smelling like I'd spent the night in a bus terminal and, finally, washed the black crap off my face when I got where I was going.

I don't know what to say about the Prius.  I love driving, so I'd probably hate it, but I guess I'd take one if someone gave me a really, really good deal.
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