Author Topic: Israel: 'Shai Dromi' home invasion bill okayed for plenum vote  (Read 8963 times)

De Selby

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Re: Israel: 'Shai Dromi' home invasion bill okayed for plenum vote
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2008, 02:40:44 PM »
So what's your slur for people like this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/25/newsid_4167000/4167929.stm
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US-born doctor Baruch Goldstein, 38, burst into the mosque in the Machpela Cave and fired up to 100 bullets at worshippers, according to state TV reports.

Or does this term that is clearly tied to the race of the parties, again, only get used when Palestinians commit a crime?
Baruch Goldstein was an aberrant individual whose murderous rampage was something out of the ordinary for his demographic - I note that you had to go back over a decade, to 1994, to find this example; that fact that people are still talking about it today shows just how unusual it was.

On the other hand, pick up this morning's paper and you'll find Palestinians behaving badly . . . as in yesterday's newspaper, and the day's before, and so on and so on . . . an almost unbroken daily list of atrocities going back for years. And likely to continue for years into the future. 

Also note that a terrorist organization, Hamas, was elected - chosen - by a majority of "Palestinian" voters. It takes the support of a good chunk of the populace to win an election.

If "Palestinians" don't like the slurs aimed their way, they ought to change their behavior.

So does the fact that some folks saw fit to build a monument to Baruch Goldstein, and that there is an active (although underground) political party that he was part of and who have endorsed his views and actions mean that he gets a slur too?

I'm curious as to the line: When does a whole race of people become responsible for the crimes of individual members? Is it when 10 percent supports the crime? Or 20? Or what?
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Re: Israel: 'Shai Dromi' home invasion bill okayed for plenum vote
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2008, 09:14:54 PM »
Shootingstudent, while I agree with your statement, the Kach underground party is beyond irrelevant. It's about as relevant in Israel as some two-bit militia unit with 19 members is to American politics.
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Re: Israel: 'Shai Dromi' home invasion bill okayed for plenum vote
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2008, 03:42:48 AM »
So does the fact that some folks saw fit to build a monument to Baruch Goldstein, and that there is an active (although underground) political party that he was part of and who have endorsed his views and actions mean that he gets a slur too?
A couple of guys meeting in a garage hardly constitutes a mass movement, but if you want a slur, fine: Baruch Goldstein was a crazy murderous nutcase. Those who admire him are also crazy nutcases.

I'm curious as to the line: When does a whole race of people become responsible for the crimes of individual members? Is it when 10 percent supports the crime? Or 20? Or what?
When a terrorist organization like Hamas wins an election, it's difficult to "spin" the story to make it seem that support for terrorists only comes from a teeny-tiny portion of the populace.
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