Obama talks of sacrifice and national service

[Marvin Dao]

I guess since nothing ever came of that quote that no one could find a link to back it up?  Just curious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw

See there. Supposedly around 16:30 or so, though I haven't been able to verify it myself since I don't have sound at work. I've been looking around for that quip too and it isn't in the transcript (below) I've found of that speech. It's almost certainly one of his characteristically foot in mouth improvised lines.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jul/02/text-obamas-speech/

[JN01]

Appears in the clip at 16:40, he is talking about expanding the Peace Corps to the same level as the US Military.  What a great use of tax dollars.

[MechAg94]

Okay, i see the context.  He was essentially saying we need to fund a civilian national security force to go out into the world and hold hands and sing Kumbaya and be friends with everyone. 

[longeyes]

Obama is a missionary Marxist.

I think when the "kids" find out that Obama wants to conscript them, even for "a good cause," they are going to balk.  Spending two years in a foreign hardship post sounds good and romantic when you're text-messaging in suburbia driving to the mall but I really doubt today's young'uns are going to get behind it.  They will want the same people who do their fighting for them to take care of it.

[Waitone]

Ya know?  Time and time again O'Bama comes up with nonsense so similar to Jimmuh Carter it is flat out scary. 

Carter deep in the bowels of of the energy crisis seriously considered the following plan
--Unemployment is far too high
--We need a way to employ more people
--Too many of the unemployed are the "poor"
--Americans are energy hogs and spend too much on energy
--High percentage of the energy is wasted in heating and cooling houses

Eureka !

We can solve two problems by creating a corp of thermostat inspectors by hiring the unemployed poor types, give them a nice uniform and a clip board, empower them to enter private residences to monitor thermostat settings.  If it was determined the thermostat had been manipulated the inspector could fine the homeowner on the spot.

I have to pinch myself periodically.

[HankB]

. . . when the "kids" find out that Obama wants to conscript them, even for "a good cause," they are going to balk.  Spending two years in a foreign hardship post sounds good and romantic when you're text-messaging in suburbia driving to the mall but I really doubt today's young'uns are going to get behind it.

And when they get back, they'll get to benefit from Obamacare - the socialized medical plan Obama is pushing - and they'll get to enjoy government treatment for the various diseases and parasites they picked up during a two year stint in some turd world dungheap.

[Manedwolf]

I can see the brats being sent to third-world jungle outposts.

"But there's no Starbucks!"
"The water from the well is brown. That's close enough."

"Why does the guard of the camp have an icky gun?"
"In case the dictator's rape squads come here."

[The Annoyed Man]

I can see the brats being sent to third-world jungle outposts.

"But there's no Starbucks!"
"The water from the well is brown. That's close enough."

"Why does the guard of the camp have an icky gun?"
"In case the dictator's rape squads come here."

Can we send a camera team with them and document all the drama?

[Manedwolf]

I can see the brats being sent to third-world jungle outposts.

"But there's no Starbucks!"
"The water from the well is brown. That's close enough."

"Why does the guard of the camp have an icky gun?"
"In case the dictator's rape squads come here."

Can we send a camera team with them and document all the drama?

It wouldn't work. Betacam SP has a maximum whining limit.

[Regolith]

Ya know?  Time and time again O'Bama comes up with nonsense so similar to Jimmuh Carter it is flat out scary. 

Carter deep in the bowels of of the energy crisis seriously considered the following plan
--Unemployment is far too high
--We need a way to employ more people
--Too many of the unemployed are the "poor"
--Americans are energy hogs and spend too much on energy
--High percentage of the energy is wasted in heating and cooling houses

Eureka !

We can solve two problems by creating a corp of thermostat inspectors by hiring the unemployed poor types, give them a nice uniform and a clip board, empower them to enter private residences to monitor thermostat settings.  If it was determined the thermostat had been manipulated the inspector could fine the homeowner on the spot.

I have to pinch myself periodically.

Ya know, I'm not too sure many of those "thermostat inspectors" would have survived the winter...

I know I'd have taken SERIOUS exception to some government bean counter trying to shove his way into my house and tell me where I can set my thermostat  (not that it's ever above the lowest setting anyway;  I'm a cheap bastard, and blankets and coats I already have don't cost me anything). 

[longeyes]

In fact in California they are pushing for remote control of your home thermostat.

One more brick in the wall...

[Regolith]

In fact in California they are pushing for remote control of your home thermostat.

One more brick in the wall...

Which is why I will never move to the state of California. 

[MicroBalrog]

I know I'd have taken SERIOUS exception to some government bean counter trying to shove his way into my house and tell me where I can set my thermostat  (not that it's ever above the lowest setting anyway;  I'm a cheap bastard, and blankets and coats I already have don't cost me anything).

A few more rounds of nominating 'moderate, electable candidates' and then voting for the lesser evil, and people will be thanking the government that they're only sending one thermostat inspector per month.

[Regolith]

I know I'd have taken SERIOUS exception to some government bean counter trying to shove his way into my house and tell me where I can set my thermostat  (not that it's ever above the lowest setting anyway;  I'm a cheap bastard, and blankets and coats I already have don't cost me anything).

A few more rounds of nominating 'moderate, electable candidates' and then voting for the lesser evil, and people will be thanking the government that they're only sending one thermostat inspector per month.

Or we can give up and let a hard leftist in, just to prove our damn point, and have them RIGHT NOW instead of 10-15 years down the road. Yeah, that's a good idea.   

I'm sorry, but it's easier to fix something if you have a longer period of time to work on it.  Delaying while you figure out how to clean up this mess we're in is better than caving and then hoping(^TMBarack Hussein Obama) that by some miracle another Ronald Reagan is just waiting in the wings to lead us out of this mess to the promised land, or that the majority of Americans will wake up to smell the Libertarian kool-aid.  Neither is likely to happen; what is MORE likely to happen is that we will be stuck with whatever disaster BHO creates for decades to come, if not longer. 

[MechAg94]

A morning radio show brought up the "civilian security force" comment.  They were making a bigger deal about the fact that a few of the major news outlets removed the comment from the transcript. 

[Werewolf]

"We cannot to continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we have set. We have got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

Translation: I'll create a National Police to deal with our enemies within.

That's pretty much what it sounds like to me too...

Just read the rest of the thread... A US Army sized peace corps funded at the same level - almost as scary.

Fortunately probably not do able. Where's he gonna find the volunteers to man it? How's he gonna fund it?

The guy lives in a freakin' dream world.

[Manedwolf]

How's he gonna fund it?

Did you really have to even ask? You know what the answer is.

RAISE TAXES

[Werewolf]

How's he gonna fund it?

Did you really have to even ask? You know what the answer is.

RAISE TAXES

Oh... I knew that - yes indeedy.

But he'd have to raise taxes so high or increase the national debt by so much that it would surely insure his political demise. I don't think that's in the cards unless he plans for it to happen in year 8 of his term because if he did it in year 1 there for sure wouldn't be a year 5.

[longeyes]

I think we need an enormous Peace Corps for all the liberals.  Once they are abroad, we lock 'em out.

Obama's model is North Korea with basketball courts.

[PremiumSauces]

Obama's current visit to the Middle East reminds me of this event in history:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZkoKh_A5pw

[MicroBalrog]

a) that by some miracle another Ronald Reagan is just waiting in the wings to lead us out of this mess to the promised land

Where do you think  the original Ronald Reagan came from?

[longeyes]

We don't live in Reagan's America any more, folks.  The demographics are hugely different now.  The cultural givens are very different.  Reagan came in on the tail of an old America that is largely gone and probably for good unless the country splits up.  Reagan couldn't get elected today, and no future Reagans will be elected in the American that's a-borning.  I wish I didn't believe this but even a catastrophic collapse of the current invidious system wouldn't engender a Reagan, just a tsunami of warlords and government-authorized fascists.

[Perd Hapley]

Longeyes, I am tired of your Pollyana optimism!   

[longeyes]

So am I.

I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist.  There are things we can do to preserve what's worth preserving but it's like fighting foreign wars: pick your battles carefully, be pragmatic, do what's necessary.  Don't deceive yourself about what lies around you or ahead.

The prevailing culture will have to change, radically, for what most of us here call Liberty to survive much longer.  How is that going to happen?  What are the good scenarios for constructive change? 

McCain is a good example of a non-realist.  He's got Big Media against him; they've already elected Obama.  Is McCain therefore appealing, by all means possible, with all passion possible, to that half of America that might hear a message of Liberty?  Or is he pandering?  Is he wobbly and off-message much of the time?  Does he care enough?  I've said before, I will say again: All he has to do to win is lay out for Americans what life under an Obama Presidency is going to be like for them and their children, dramatizing that scenario with specifics.   

[The Annoyed Man]

Hey guys, I could always sacrifice Obama on the altar. The Elder Gods have been very upset lately and they...

Oh, sorry, wrong kind of sacrifice .