Author Topic: ALGORE says must go completely wind and solar within ten years (Read 20409 times)

Manedwolf · « **on:** July 17, 2008, 05:23:23 PM »

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WASHINGTON Former Vice President Al Gore said on Thursday that Americans must abandon electricity generated by fossil fuels within a decade and rely on the sun, the winds and other environmentally friendly sources of power, or risk losing their national security as well as their creature comforts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/washington/18gorecnd.html?hp

Funny, I thought his scary powerpoint tour required the use of tens of thousands of gallons of Jet-A per month...

Stuffed shirt telling everyone to be a hippie. Whatever.

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Gore did criticize President Bush's proposal to resume offshore oil drilling as a way to address the current energy crisis.

"It is only a truly dysfunctional system that would buy into the perverse logic that the short-term answer to high gasoline prices is drilling for oil 10 years from now in areas that should be protected," he said.

The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama issued a statement after the speech, saying he strongly agrees with Gore that the U.S. cannot drill its way to energy independence, but must boost investments in renewable sources of energy. Obama said it is a strategy that will create millions of new jobs and leave American children with a cleaner and safer world.

You know what, Al? Shut the hell up. Your fifteen minutes are over, your CG falling ice has been exposed, your powerpoint is stupid and boring. Go away. Go move to some island and talk to the coconuts.

You too, Obama. You two can babble about credits and change to each other.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #1 on:** July 17, 2008, 07:09:39 PM »

Didn't Algore give us a ten-year deadline a while back? Like several years ago?

Silver Bullet · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2008, 07:50:40 PM »

Very appropriate that Al Gore is demanding Solar and Wind power, considering he is a strong source for both "hot" and "air". He must expect to make a killing.

Marvin Dao · « **Reply #3 on:** July 17, 2008, 07:54:01 PM »

I'm pretty sure a transition to only solar/wind/fairy dust in 10 years would do a damned good job of destroying our creature comforts and likely our national security.

Headless Thompson Gunner · « **Reply #4 on:** July 17, 2008, 08:07:20 PM »

Quote from: Silver Bullet on July 17, 2008, 06:50:40 PM

Very appropriate that Al Gore is demanding Solar and Wind power, considering he is a strong source for both "hot" and "air". He must expect to make a killing.

I believe he either owns or sells investments in wind and solar technology. I do think he's making a killing.

m1911owner · « **Reply #5 on:** July 17, 2008, 09:20:01 PM »

He appears to have forgotten about nuclear power. While it is doubtful that solar and wind power can supply anywhere remotely close to the amount of power required, nuclear power certainly can, at far better cost.

And I also note that we still don't have any practical way to store solar electricity for when the sun's not shining.

Waitone · « **Reply #6 on:** July 18, 2008, 02:24:05 AM »

He is an owner of a carbon trading firm. I guess bidness fell off so now he needs a new investment to pay the power bill a Casa de Gore. It will really be interesting to see if his name shows up in a wind and solar venture. T. Boone Pickens has just sworn off oil for wind. Oddly enough he owns a tech company into wind generation. Why am I so skeptical of environmentalism?

wmenorr67 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 18, 2008, 02:31:24 AM »

I will start when he does. How much energy does his current house use?

Waitone · « **Reply #8 on:** July 18, 2008, 02:39:18 AM »

Only 20 times average.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54450

Manedwolf · « **Reply #9 on:** July 18, 2008, 06:12:22 AM »

This is a very interesting fact I'd known, but is never reported in the MSM. Ever.

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HOUSE # 1: A 20-room mansion (not including 8 bathrooms) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate guest house all heated by gas. In ONE MONTH ALONE this mansion consumes more energy than the average American household in an ENTIRE YEAR. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2,400.00 per month. In natural gas alone (which last time we checked was a fossil fuel), this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home. This house is not in a northern or Midwestern "snow belt," either. It's in the South.

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HOUSE # 2: Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university, this house incorporates every "green" feature current home construction can provide. The house contains only 4,000 square feet (4 bedrooms) and is nestled on arid high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (usually 67 degrees F.) heats the house in winter and cools it in summer. The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas, and it consumes 25% of the electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house.

Guess which house belongs to ALGORE, and guess which house belongs to George W. Bush?

That's right. #2 is his house in Crawford.

MrRezister · « **Reply #10 on:** July 18, 2008, 06:39:09 AM »

What will we be using to produce these vast quantities of solar panels and wind turbines?

O yah, dirt and leaves.... dur.

Thanks much for doing your part Mr. Gore! If I tell some schmoe that he should walk to work instead of driving his broken down Nissan, will you add a floor to my home? Kthxbai.

El Tejon · « **Reply #11 on:** July 18, 2008, 07:32:20 AM »

I'll go oil-free when Algore goes carb-free. cheesy

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #12 on:** July 18, 2008, 10:55:31 AM »

Quote from: Manedwolf on July 18, 2008, 05:12:22 AM

This is a very interesting fact I'd known, but is never reported in the MSM. Ever.

<Tale of two houses, snipped>

Got a source for this? Not doubting your honesty, but certain Gore-worshippers I know will demand it. Thanks.

-Jack

Marvin Dao · « **Reply #13 on:** July 18, 2008, 11:05:17 AM »

Quote from: Jack Straw from Wichita on July 18, 2008, 09:55:31 AM

Quote from: Manedwolf on July 18, 2008, 05:12:22 AM

This is a very interesting fact I'd known, but is never reported in the MSM. Ever.

<Tale of two houses, snipped>

Got a source for this? Not doubting your honesty, but certain Gore-worshippers I know will demand it. Thanks.

-Jack

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=764

Updated after his new "green" home renovations. Power use after renovations? Even higher.

Silver Bullet · « **Reply #14 on:** July 18, 2008, 11:58:27 AM »

alGore's Hot Air R US

stevelyn · « **Reply #15 on:** July 18, 2008, 03:03:30 PM »

Quote from: Waitone on July 18, 2008, 01:24:05 AM

He is an owner of a carbon trading firm. I guess bidness fell off so now he needs a new investment to pay the power bill a Casa de Gore. It will really be interesting to see if his name shows up in a wind and solar venture. T. Boone Pickens has just sworn off oil for wind. Oddly enough he owns a tech company into wind generation. Why am I so skeptical of environmentalism?

As you should be. None of these people are involved in eco-nazism out of the goodness of their hearts. It's all financially motivated and T. Boone Pickens is just trying to cash in and hitch a ride on the Owl Gore money train.

yesitsloaded · « **Reply #16 on:** July 18, 2008, 03:08:23 PM »

Must...not...post...too..late.

thebaldguy · « **Reply #17 on:** July 18, 2008, 03:48:36 PM »

Al Gore crackes me up. Here's a guy who uses at least 10x the resources that I do.

And I need to conserve.

taurusowner · « **Reply #18 on:** July 18, 2008, 03:58:42 PM »

baldguy, no that's just 10x the home electricity use. This does not account for how much garbage him or him entourage generate, how much fuel his escort of SUVs or private jets use, how much $$ is blown on food that gets thrown away, or any other resources.

He uses a hell of a lot more than 10 times the total resources than any of us.

thebaldguy · « **Reply #19 on:** July 18, 2008, 04:03:41 PM »

Quote from: taurusowner on July 18, 2008, 02:58:42 PM

baldguy, no that's just 10x the home electricity use. This does not account for how much garbage him or him entourage generate, how much fuel his escort of SUVs or private jets use, how much $$ is blown on food that gets thrown away, or any other resources.

He uses a hell of a lot more than 10 times the total resources than any of us.

Good point, taurusowner. I'm guessing he doesn't carpool to work in a Corolla driving less than six miles a day. He doesn't live in a small duplex with a 92% efficient gas furnace. Or fly coach, or plan trips to conserve fuel, or take a bike instead of a car, or walk, or ...

drewtam · « **Reply #20 on:** July 18, 2008, 06:05:19 PM »

To me, support of nuclear energy is a litmus test of environmentalism.
It is a fact that if the US double its atomic energy resources (from 20% to 40% electrical production) we would already be in compliance with the Kyoto proposals without doing anything else.

And more importantly to me, the switch to nuclear would save hundreds of lives per year from reduced pollution and radiation from coal. The air and rivers would be significantly cleaner with nukes. So if a self proclaimed environmentalist doesn't support nuclear energy, I can't possibly take them seriously.

yesitsloaded · « **Reply #21 on:** July 18, 2008, 06:09:23 PM »

What is really dumb is that we don't recycle our nuclear waste.

m1911owner · « **Reply #22 on:** July 18, 2008, 06:12:02 PM »

I note that if California (the state I'm currently stuck in for a while, and which keeps proposing more and more draconian "environmental" laws to "conserve energy") were to build just two nuclear power plants of the three-reactor variety in Northern California and two in Southern California, we would have more power than we know what to do with.

m1911owner · « **Reply #23 on:** July 18, 2008, 06:19:35 PM »

Quote from: yesitsloaded on July 18, 2008, 05:09:23 PM

What is really dumb is that we don't recycle our nuclear waste.

Or build IFR (Integral Fast Reactor) type reactors that burn up nearly all the actinide waste products, ultimately resulting in "nuclear waste" that is less radioactive than the original ore you stated with!

The IFR can also use 238U ("depleted uranium") as fuel; we have sufficient depleted uranium stored in barrels in the U.S. to supply all of our electrical needs for the next 500 years without mining any additional uranium.

See http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/designs/ifr/anlw.html for more details.

wacki · « **Reply #24 on:** July 19, 2008, 05:09:30 AM »

Someone should make a timeline of when he started campaigning on global warming (many years/decades before the movie) to when he switched his house over to completely solar/wind. If he has he even done that yet....

I suspect Al Gore, a man with immense expendable income, sets higher standards for the public than himself.

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Author Topic: ALGORE says must go completely wind and solar within ten years (Read 20409 times)

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