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wmenorr67

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New immigration strategy -- Deport yourself
« on: July 31, 2008, 02:06:56 AM »
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5914689.html

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Agency allows immigrants here illegally to avoid raids, prison by turning selves in

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Rather than risk getting caught, turn yourselves in.

That's the latest government strategy in its ongoing effort to dramatically reduce the nation's ballooning population of illegal immigrants.

Scheduled to be unveiled next week, it was announced Sunday by Julie Myers, director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, in an interview with a Spanish-language television network.

Myers told the network that "Operation Scheduled Departure" will allow illegal immigrants without criminal records a chance to literally "self-deport" by turning themselves in to her agents.

She said the idea derived from a common complaint voiced by immigrant detainees: If given the opportunity, they'd rather just go home than be holed up in immigration prisons.

Under the new program, those still walking free will have the chance to walk into ICE offices, be processed and get a few weeks to arrange their affairs, pack their belongings and ship out of the country without being detained.

"The program basically gives an opportunity to those seeking an organized way to self-deport," Myers told Univisión anchor Jorge Ramos.

Myers said the program would allow immigrants to avoid the increasing risks of being picked up in a raid at home or at work, but would offer no additional incentives to turn themselves in  no chance at qualifying for an amnesty, for example.

ICE officials in San Antonio, Dallas and Washington refused to elaborate on the program, saying no details will be made available before the official presentation next week.

Proposal met with scorn

Immigrant advocates called it a laughable charade with little to no chance of succeeding without any carrots to offer self-deportees.

"It's pure fantasy," said Doug Rivlin, spokesman for the National Immigration Forum in Washington. "An attempt to entice people to sign away their rights and get out of the country as quickly as possible before even talking to a lawyer."

If people truly wanted to leave on their own, they'd buy their own bus or plane ticket home without checking in with ICE first, Rivlin said.

Ira Mehlman, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, the country's largest anti-illegal-immigration lobby group based in Washington, said he'd have to concede that point.

The government would have to offer some kind of incentive to entice immigrants to sign up, such as telling them that by leaving voluntarily they would be allowed to apply to come back legally, Mehlman said.

The concept of nudging undocumented immigrants into leaving on their own is one his group has long advocated.

"It certainly makes sense to create conditions to make people understand that if they're here illegally, it's not going to benefit them to stick around," he said.

While it remains to be seen whether the idea works for ICE, another federal agency that came up with the idea three years ago claims it has worked well.

"Fugitive Safe Surrender" offers non-violent criminals with arrest warrants a chance to give themselves up to the U.S. Marshals Service instead of being hunted down. So far more than 16,000 have accepted the offer.

Exactly--If you don't want to be here just get the f--- out.

Yes it may have worked for the U.S. Marshals Service but you aren't talking about a million plus illegals either.  And where is the incentive to quote/unquote turn your self into ICE. 
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Re: New immigration strategy -- Deport yourself
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 02:21:20 AM »
That's very easy.

Would you rather be beaten and stomped by police, tased, and thrown into a truck, and then carted across to Mexico, or just turn yourself in and go to Mexico peacefully?

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Re: New immigration strategy -- Deport yourself
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2008, 02:23:30 AM »
Or don't waste anymore taxpayers money and just leave on your own accord.
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Re: New immigration strategy -- Deport yourself
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 03:42:18 AM »
That's very easy.

Would you rather be beaten and stomped by police, tased, and thrown into a truck, and then carted across to Mexico, or just turn yourself in and go to Mexico peacefully?
Probably the former, since that would afford you the opportunity to file a lawsuit for damages . . . and it's not out of the question that criminal charges would be filed against the police, too, making your court victory that much sweeter.
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Re: New immigration strategy -- Deport yourself
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2008, 03:55:31 AM »
That's very easy.

Would you rather be beaten and stomped by police, tased, and thrown into a truck, and then carted across to Mexico, or just turn yourself in and go to Mexico peacefully?
Probably the former, since that would afford you the opportunity to file a lawsuit for damages . . . and it's not out of the question that criminal charges would be filed against the police, too, making your court victory that much sweeter.

Cops can get away with some rather mean stuff in today's America.

Contemplate this report.

All I ask is we channel all this mean and whopa$$ at the illegals.
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Re: New immigration strategy -- Deport yourself
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 05:49:37 AM »
That's very easy.

Would you rather be beaten and stomped by police, tased, and thrown into a truck, and then carted across to Mexico, or just turn yourself in and go to Mexico peacefully?


...where, upon arrival, you'll be beaten and stomped by the police, thrown into a truck, and then carted across to Guatemala......

Gotta love Mexico's version of "southern border security".....  police
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Re: New immigration strategy -- Deport yourself
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 06:13:21 AM »
Unfortunately, a lot of drug mules use this a free means of getting back to their home country so they can load up again and come back.

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Re: New immigration strategy -- Deport yourself
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 04:09:44 PM »
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Immigrant advocates called it a laughable charade with little to no chance of succeeding without any carrots to offer self-deportees.

"It's pure fantasy," said Doug Rivlin, spokesman for the National Immigration Forum in Washington. "An attempt to entice people to sign away their rights and get out of the country as quickly as possible before even talking to a lawyer."

If people truly wanted to leave on their own, they'd buy their own bus or plane ticket home without checking in with ICE first, Rivlin said.

I am inclined to agree with paragraphs 1 and 3 above.

As to paragraph #2 -- I am left wondering exactly whatrights" this clown is referring to. We are discussing illegal aliens here. Which means they have NO right to be here, so what rights would they be signing away by departing voluntarily? Man, I I were inclined to do draugs, I'd want to sample whatever he's smoking.
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