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Re: Swingers Stage Naked Rally for Obama Including Mobile Sex Dungeon
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2008, 01:09:56 PM »
Also, choosing your partners helps even if you are polyamorous.

Yeah.  Until someone lies.  Gee, now I wonder why a guy who has convinced four or five of his favorite lays to have all kinds of fun and games with him would lie.

What percentage of condoms fail again?  And oral barriers?  Please.

Do you teach High School health?

Sex is quite safe if done intelligently.

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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2008, 01:10:56 PM »
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What percentage of condoms fail again?  And oral barriers?  Please.

Assuming constant use (rather than people using them 'not always' or some other tomfoolery), condoms have a 2% failure rate in preventing pregnancy. As for STDs, read here.

Said barriers are generally composed of the same material as condoms, but I find no stats on them.
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« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2008, 01:19:59 PM »
Also, choosing your partners helps even if you are polyamorous.

Yeah.  Until someone lies.  Gee, now I wonder why a guy who has convinced four or five of his favorite lays to have all kinds of fun and games with him would lie.

What percentage of condoms fail again?  And oral barriers?  Please.

Do you teach High School health?

Sex is quite safe if done intelligently.
Yes, very safe if done intelligently. 

There are many things that can be said about swingers parties, anonymous sex, numerous partners, and "sex-positive lifestyles."   But "intelligent" is not one of those things.

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« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2008, 01:21:00 PM »
The big question is unanswered:

Apart from his support for the 'pro-life' cause, what is it that makes Obama such a big friend of the nekkid-fun people?

Because he's a liberal, and when he taxes us to the point of not being able to afford clothing, all that will be left is nekkid-fun.

No, it's because the alternative to Obama is McCain.  And McCain will be Bush III.  And the Bush administration is a fundamentalist theocracy that allows sex only through a hole in the sheet, for pro-creation.  Duh. 

Sex is quite safe if done intelligently.

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« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2008, 01:22:14 PM »
Yes, very safe if done intelligently.  There are many things that can be said about swingers parties, anonymous sex, numerous partners, and "sex-positive lifestyles."   But "intelligent" is not one of those things.

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« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2008, 01:23:51 PM »
Do you teach High School health?

Nope, I've just seen a lot of friends get hurt in various ways by the so-called "sex positive" culture. 

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« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2008, 01:29:34 PM »
Do you teach High School health?

Nope, I've just seen a lot of friends get hurt in various ways by the so-called "sex positive" culture. 

I've also seen a lot of people get hurt in various ways in the... let's say, more traditional segments of society. That doesn't mean that the lifestyle is invalid, just that some people are irresponsible... rectums.
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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2008, 01:33:15 PM »
I've also seen a lot of people get hurt in various ways in the... let's say, more traditional segments of society. That doesn't mean that the lifestyle is invalid, just that some people are irresponsible... rectums.

Yeah.  Whatever.  Sure dude.

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« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2008, 01:34:10 PM »
I've also seen a lot of people get hurt in various ways in the... let's say, more traditional segments of society. That doesn't mean that the lifestyle is invalid, just that some people are irresponsible... rectums.

Yeah.  Whatever.  Sure dude.


Basically, the plural of anecdote is not data.
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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2008, 01:44:49 PM »
Finally, my search for "Mobile Sex Dungeon" pays off!   grin
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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2008, 01:48:50 PM »
You are welcome.

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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2008, 01:51:05 PM »
Basically, the plural of anecdote is not data.

Nope.  But the plural of women handy for sex whenever some dude wants it is a perversion.

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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2008, 02:02:26 PM »
Basically, the plural of anecdote is not data.

Nope.  But the plural of women handy for sex whenever some dude wants it is a perversion.

Yes, this is all about subjugating women.
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« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2008, 02:12:00 PM »
Yes, this is all about subjugating women.

Oh, I'm sorry, are you too post-modern for that to be a possibility?

Ftr, it does a real number on the kids too.

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« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2008, 02:36:00 PM »
MB:

Do the math.  That sort of behavior will get you killed since the advent of AIDS.

One doesn't have to drag out any moral arguments or ethics to figure out that that sort of behavior is A VERY BAD IDEA in this day & age.

Reducing the likelihood by 85% of transmission of HIV with the use of condoms  does one no good if you double/triple/quadruple/etc-down on the number of folks you get jiggy* with.

Not to mention the baker's dozen of other STDs and other blood, fluid, and feces-borne illnesses (Hepatitis, HPV, cervical cancer, etc.) not so dramatic as AIDS.  A simple case of HPV or the clap can render the afflicted sterile** and herpes will, in the immortal words of Eddie Murphy, "Be with you forever, like luggage."

The most "sex positive" demographic, (homosexual men) lose roughly half their life span, on average, due to their "sex positive" activities.  And the last years of their average of 35-37 years are spent dying.  Hoo-freakin'-ray for halved lifespans and lingering deaths!

Also, trusting folks to be honest when they already show they are at odds with conventional ideas of morality, ethics, and social mores is a fool's wager.







* Or, since the OP referred to large types, "get jiggly" might be more appropriate.

** Not much spoken about, but probably second only to a woman's age as a cause for sterility, but applicable to both sexes.
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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2008, 03:07:10 PM »
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The most "sex positive" demographic, (homosexual men) lose roughly half their life span, on average, due to their "sex positive" activities.  And the last years of their average of 35-37 years are spent dying.  Hoo-freakin'-ray for halved lifespans and lingering deaths!

Let's not get technical here, but IMO the biggest reason of high STD incidence among homosexual men is the promotion, by various homosexual media (not just porn), of anal sex as the prevalent way for gay men to get into it, and specifically also unprotected anal sex.

I will not go into more details since this is a family-friendly forum.

I also wish to have a source about the gay lifespan being 35-37. Google brought no such studies.

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Also, trusting folks to be honest when they already show they are at odds with conventional ideas of morality, ethics, and social mores is a fool's wager.

I'm at odds with current prevailing ideas of morality, ethic, and social mores. I'd say I'm pretty honest.
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« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2008, 03:12:52 PM »
I'm at odds with current prevailing ideas of morality, ethic, and social mores. I'd say I'm pretty honest.

Pardon me for not being willing to bet my life and health on it.

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« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2008, 03:16:00 PM »
I'm at odds with current prevailing ideas of morality, ethic, and social mores. I'd say I'm pretty honest.

Pardon me for not being willing to bet my life and health on it.

...I have not made any propositions to you, I think. But I do not think your opinion that people who make different sexual choices than you are somehow stupid or evil holds up.
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« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2008, 03:27:22 PM »
...I have not made any propositions to you, I think. But I do not think your opinion that people who make different sexual choices than you are somehow stupid or evil holds up.

Nope.  Just really, really dishonest.  The overwhelmingly vast majority of them.  And not people who make different sexual choices than me.  Just people who make sexual choices that are dangerous, inherently coercive, and that celebrate ritualized coercion in ways that frequently prove dangerous. 

Wait, no, plenty are just stupid.  Where's AD and his latest blog post about interesting objects in rectums?

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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2008, 03:36:09 PM »
And you're calling me post-modern?
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« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2008, 03:37:42 PM »
And you're calling me post-modern?

Yep.

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« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2008, 04:14:10 PM »
I did not expect this topic to create more than a few giggles, how mistaken I was. How european of me smiley I even thought it was an awesome thing to do to create positive publicity.

In my opinion, sex can be pretty disgusting (unprotected sex with strangers, certain fetishes which I won't list here) but also very good. It can be  You can not say it is bad or good just because it is sex, the same goes for demeaning to women, btw. If people consentually decide to have sex or do sex-related things together, it is their decisionand I do not think that it is something which needs to be ruled by law.

I used to live in one of the gay capitals of Germany and I think the idea that the average lifespan of gays is 35-37 is rather off. Of course sex is not perfectly safe, but then, nothing is (a certain road I have to cross at least once a week comes to mind, where I got involved into 2 accidents). What we should attempt to promote thus is not abstinence or some form or traditional moral code, but responsibility. Because this helps in almost any situation. Even in those for which a traditional moral code does not exist.

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« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2008, 04:17:55 PM »
And you're calling me post-modern?

Yep.


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I do not think your opinion that people who make different sexual choices than you...

You sound awfully post-modern, there; interpreting any moral judgment as mere arbitrary preference.  Or in this case it wasn't even moral, so much as pragmatic.
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« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2008, 04:52:29 PM »
On the contrary, fistful, I hold the belief that objective moral truth does exist.

I just do not have the belief that consensual sex between those capable of such consent is a moral issue for me.

There are people whose religion tells them not to eat a particular food, or to avoid in a particular kind of a sexual relationship. There are even people whose religion tells them to avoid the use of a given invention or tool. I do not have to be a postmodernist to say that I do not share these beliefs.

From a pragmatic and moral standpoint, I think sex is a lot like guns or drugs - use them responsibly, and everything will be okay barring a freak accident.

Also I wanted to elaborate on this to a great extent, but my sweet 2Swap has swooped down and said everything beautifully.
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« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2008, 05:07:13 PM »
I don't think anyone is saying that "sex-positive" people shouldn't be free to do what they do.  I think we're mostly saying that what they do is stupid and risky.  Responsible sex is fine and dandy.  Sex-positive uber promiscuity doesn't seem at all responsible to me.



Also I wanted to elaborate on this to a great extent, but my sweet 2Swap has swooped down and said everything beautifully.
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