Author Topic: Senator Joe Lieberman's comments... (Read 5613 times)

GingerGuy · « **on:** September 03, 2008, 02:28:59 AM »

I wonder how it feels to have your Democratic candidate for Vice President, in the 2000 presidential election attend the 2008 RNC Convention, Sept. 2nd, and make the following statement to a national audience...

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So tonight, I ask you whether you are an Independent, a Reagan Democrat or a Clinton Democrat, or just a Democrat: This year, when you vote for President, vote for the person you believe is best for the country, not for the party you happen to belong to.

Standing Wolf · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2008, 03:56:59 AM »

Little Joey Lieberman has never thought about anybody but little Joey Lieberman in his life. His purported "independence" has never been anything but rampaging ego-centricity.

grampster · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2008, 04:47:26 AM »

I liked Fred Thompson's speech much better.

longeyes · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2008, 08:28:26 AM »

Joe is one of those people who set out to be a politician while still beardless and has done what he had to do to advance without being born to the purple. He is in most ways a doctrinaire liberal with one well-known exception. He is smart. And as pols go he is honest.

(Don't ask me how I know.)

Headless Thompson Gunner · « **Reply #4 on:** September 03, 2008, 08:49:40 AM »

How does pissing off his own party advance Lieberman's political prospects?

AJ Dual · « **Reply #5 on:** September 03, 2008, 09:24:13 AM »

Quote from: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 03, 2008, 07:49:40 AM

How does pissing off his own party advance Lieberman's political prospects?

The exact same way that McCain being a "maverick" has paid off for him.

Marvin Dao · « **Reply #6 on:** September 03, 2008, 09:28:23 AM »

Quote from: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 03, 2008, 07:49:40 AM

How does pissing off his own party advance Lieberman's political prospects?

Because it's not his party. He's officially independent. The arrangement he has with the Dems maintains his seniority and gives him the chair to the Governmental Affairs Committee in exchange for voting the party line on all procedural issues. The reasoning goes that Lieberman is only valuable to the Dems right now since he's the 51st vote they need to maintain control of the Senate. Since every projection have the Dems taking enough seats to control the Senate without Lieberman, but not enough to need him to maintain a filibuster proof majority, they'll be free to end their arrangement and revoke his seniority after the elections this year.

Given that he has no long term future in the Democratic party, a McCain victory and a cabinet appointment is one of the few ways his political career can continue.

peteinct · « **Reply #7 on:** September 04, 2008, 03:45:12 PM »

He didn't leave his party, it left him.I'm from CT. What happened is that his support of the war in Iraq upset the Democratic party faithful so they voted him out in the primary.The voters in the state voted him in probably because they knew his name. As for his future the Democrats will never support him so he has to look elsewhere. I think his support for the warcost him a lot politically and i he was really thast big of a weasel he could have renounced it.

Not that I voted for him, though
pete

Antibubba · « **Reply #8 on:** September 04, 2008, 05:53:35 PM »

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Little Joey Lieberman has never thought about anybody but little Joey Lieberman in his life.

And I have no problem with the GOP using that.

Balog · « **Reply #9 on:** September 04, 2008, 07:39:15 PM »

Quote from: peteinct on September 04, 2008, 02:45:12 PM

think his support for the warcost him a lot politically and i he was really thast big of a weasel he could have renounced it.

What?

K Frame · « **Reply #10 on:** September 04, 2008, 07:44:37 PM »

Quote from: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 03, 2008, 07:49:40 AM

How does pissing off his own party advance Lieberman's political prospects?

Lieberman hasn't been a Democrat for several years. He's officially listed as an independent Democrat. The Democrats were pissed at him and managed to get him ousted from the primary ticket in 2006, partially over his defense of the Iraq war and opposition to Democratic amendments designed to force troop withdrawals. He then ran for Congress as an independent and wiped the floor with both candidates.

longeyes · « **Reply #11 on:** September 04, 2008, 07:54:33 PM »

He will become a Republican. Only a matter of time. And probably not that much at that.

Matthew Carberry · « **Reply #12 on:** September 04, 2008, 10:52:29 PM »

At this point I'd go for a 2000-era McCain/Leiberman type 3rd party to at least force the Repubs and Dems to man up and be who they really claim to be.

When you can't tell who what party wrote a piece of legislation by reading it, you know that the "center" has gotten far too big.

peteinct · « **Reply #13 on:** September 05, 2008, 05:07:54 AM »

Balog, What I meant to type was that his support of the war cost lieberman the nomination. If he came out and said he was against the war he would have easily won. So if it was just pure ambition that ruled him he would have just said he was against the war.

To go to the republicans to try to salvage the rest of his career is a little off putting but the Democratic Party at least here is solidly anti -war.

pete

Tallpine · « **Reply #14 on:** September 06, 2008, 06:12:59 AM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on September 04, 2008, 06:44:37 PM

Quote from: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 03, 2008, 07:49:40 AM

How does pissing off his own party advance Lieberman's political prospects?

Lieberman hasn't been a Democrat for several years. He's officially listed as an independent Democrat. The Democrats were pissed at him and managed to get him ousted from the primary ticket in 2006, partially over his defense of the Iraq war and opposition to Democratic amendments designed to force troop withdrawals. He then ran for Congress as an independent and wiped the floor with both candidates.

So, for the lack of Lieberman's support the Democratically controlled Senate and House were unable to throw a lasso over Bush and stop the Iraq war Huh?

Whatever your views on the war, this is one reason I have no use for the Democrats. They ran on an "anti-war" platform in 2006 and then did absolutely nothing (except bellyache) for two years despite having a majority in Congress. Now they want us to vote for Obama so that he will "end the war" rolleyes

K Frame · « **Reply #15 on:** September 06, 2008, 07:09:03 AM »

"So, for the lack of Lieberman's support the Democratically controlled Senate and House were unable to throw a lasso over Bush and stop the Iraq war"

Did I say that?

No, I didn't.

I responded to a statement regarding Lieberman's party affiliation and provided FACTUAL information as to why Lieberman was stripped of his party's support in the 2006 primary election.

grampster · « **Reply #16 on:** September 06, 2008, 07:15:06 AM »

Sen. Lieberman is a liberal who supports the war. If he goes over to the R's he will just be another white shoe RINO who supports the war.

Tallpine · « **Reply #17 on:** September 06, 2008, 07:52:14 AM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on September 06, 2008, 06:09:03 AM

"So, for the lack of Lieberman's support the Democratically controlled Senate and House were unable to throw a lasso over Bush and stop the Iraq war"

Did I say that?

No, I didn't.

I responded to a statement regarding Lieberman's party affiliation and provided FACTUAL information as to why Lieberman was stripped of his party's support in the 2006 primary election.

Down, Mike, down. Easy boy, easy.... undecided

I was picking on the Democrats, not you rolleyes

Are you part Belgian Malinois Huh?

peteinct · « **Reply #18 on:** September 06, 2008, 08:51:26 AM »

I think Grampster has it right. Remember CT is the state of Lowell Weiker. He was so mad when we voted him out of his cushy Senate seat that he became Governor and punished us with a personal income tax. After implying he would do no such thing. Pete

Waitone · « **Reply #19 on:** September 07, 2008, 02:50:21 AM »

His political worth and his financial worth are tied to being a swing vote in a closely divided senate. McCain played the schtick to the max. He's trying the same thing for the big house. Those who are unpredictable or those whose allegiances move around are of immense value compared to the true, blue base. Joe is merely setting himself up for future prosperity; as is Lindsey Graham.

K Frame · « **Reply #20 on:** September 07, 2008, 08:24:28 PM »

"Are you part Belgian Malinois"

Kangal.

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