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Uncharacteristically low turnout for Barack Obama rally in Green Bay, Wisc.
McCain/Palin drew 4,000 more supporters at same venue a week ago
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1178184,obamarally092208.article

BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Staff Reporter
GREEN BAY, Wis.  Hoping to shore up support in his suddenly undependable backyard, Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama flew here Monday to talk about how hed handle economic crises as president.

Recent polls have shown that Wisconsin  once pretty solidly in Obamas column  is now a statistical dead heat between Obama and Republican John McCain.

You all know that you hold this election in your hands, Sen. Russ Feingold, a Democrat who said he worked on ethics legislation with Obama, told a crowd of about 6,000 cheering Obama fans in the arena next to Lambeau Field. We just barely won this state for Al Gore in 2000 and we just barely won this state for John Kerry in 2004.

The numbers in Wisconsin and Minnesota are getting close enough that the Obama campaign closed its 11 campaign offices in North Dakota and moved the 50 staffers there to these two states.

Just a week ago, John McCain and his vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin  who can bring out crowds the way Obama can  appeared in this same stadium, Resch Center, to a crowd of 10,000 fans. There were an uncharacteristic amount of empty orange seats for Obamas rally.

In their defense, Obama's backers note their rally was held on Monday at noon, compared to a Thursday night rally for McCain and Palin.

After a watershed week of collapse on Wall Street, Obama focused his speech here on the excesses of Wall Street CEOs and the failure of Washington politicians  especially McCain  to rein them in.

When it comes to regulatory reform, Sen. McCain has fought time and time again against the common-sense rules of the road that couldve prevented this crisis, Obama said. His economic plan was written by Phil Gramm, the architect in the U.S. Senate of the deregulatory steps that helped cause this mess.

The audience booed Gramms name, as they did McCains and Palins.

Obama laid out what he called a series of reforms that the McCain campaign later complained were still short on specifics.

When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as president, you will have five days to look online and find out whats in it before I sign it, Obama said. When there are meetings between lobbyists and a government agency, we will put as many as possible online for every American to watch. When there is a tax bill being debated in Congress, you will know the names of the corporations that would benefit and how much money they would get. And we will put every corporate tax break and every pork-barrel project online for every American to see. You will know who asked for them and you can cast your vote accordingly.

Obama offered broader guidelines on the Wall Street reforms, saying that if companies were in a position to borrow money from the government, they needed to open their books to the government.

But the McCain campaign said in an e-mail to reporters, Three days after John McCain laid out a specific plan to address the crisis on Wall Street, Barack Obama provided no discernable plan for the banking crisis.

Obama played to the Green Bay crowd by commiserating with them about Sundays losses for the Green Bay Packers and the Chicago Bears.

Lets get this out of the way: Im sorry about last night but Ill tell you what, the Bears are 1-2, so Ill tell you what, were having a tougher time. As the crowd cheered, Obama said, This is probably the biggest cheer that a Bears fan has ever gotten from cheeseheads.

Obama told the crowd he needed them to win.

Change has always come from places like Wisconsin, Obama said to more cheers. The state where the progressive movement was born; where laws were passed to regulate the railroads and insurance companies, laws that protected consumers and the safety of factory workers. It was a movement rooted in a principle that was known as the Wisconsin Idea  the idea that government works best in the hands of the people, not the special interests, that your voices should speak louder than the whispers of lobbyists.

Obama volunteers implored the audience to text in their cell phone numbers and be prepared to work.

We need all of you to take off election day to volunteer to get out the vote, organizer Dan Phillips said. Volunteer for at least one hour or spend four years regretting that you did not.

Plenty of residents of Illinois - where polls show Obama comfortably ahead  are being encouraged to cross the border and join get-out-the-vote efforts in Wisconsin.

Obama returns to Chicago for two fund-raising events tonight.

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According to RealClearPolitics, Obama leads there by 3.2%
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When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as president, you will have five days to look online and find out whats in it before I sign it, Obama said.

Uh.

How many years has THOMAS been active?

Why does Obama not know this?

Oh, right. He's an empty suit.

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Was this the rally where he laid into people who had spent decades in the Senate? 
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Change has always come from places like Wisconsin, Obama said to more cheers. The state where the progressive movement was born..."

Yep. That's why we're leaving as soon as possible. We can buy more house in a "non-progressive" state, pay 90% less in property taxes, 2% less in state income taxes, and untold percentages less in other taxes.

Thanks to the "progressives," Milwaukee has become a festering sewer with one of the highest crime rates in the country as city government has done its best to drive business away.

If anyone wants to see an example of the sort of change Obama can bring, just look at Wisconsin.

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Didn't Milwaukee pretty much lose all businesses from breweries to yeast manufacture due to the business climate?

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In their defense, Obama's backers note their rally was held on Monday at noon, compared to a Thursday night rally for McCain and Palin.

That just means there is even more reason to compare them equally.  On Thursday night, Republicans were just getting out of work and headed to the rally.  And Monday afternoon, Democrats were just getting out of bed to head to their rally as well.

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According to RealClearPolitics, Obama leads there by 3.2%
Only in Wisconsin though. 

It appears those numbers are a mix of likely and registered voter polls from state by state results.  I doubt I would trust them. 
Rasmussen has a tie nationally. 
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