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« on: October 19, 2008, 07:15:32 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/19/AR2008101900144.html?nav=hcmoduletmv

Obama's lead slips to 3 points
   

By Andrew Quinn
Reuters
Sunday, October 19, 2008; 1:08 AM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama's lead over Republican John McCain in the presidential race has dropped to 3 points, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Sunday.

Obama leads McCain by 48 to 45 percent among likely U.S. voters, down 1 percentage point from Saturday. The four-day tracking poll, which has a margin of error of 2.9 points.

Pollster John Zogby said the numbers were good news for McCain, and probably reflected a bump following his appearance in the third and final presidential debate on Wednesday.

"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.
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He said the Arizona senator appeared to have solidified his support with the Republican base -- where 9 out of 10 voters now back him -- and was also gaining ground among the independents who may play a decisive role in the November 4 election.

Obama's lead among independent voters dropped to 8 points on Sunday from 16 points a day earlier.

'RED FLAGS'

"If that trend continues, it is something that has got to raise red flags for Obama," Zogby said. "It suggests to me that his outward look of confidence may be as much strategy as it is real."

Other national polls have given Obama a double-digit overall lead, fueled by perceptions he would do a better job managing the faltering economy and unhappiness with McCain's attacks on him over the past week.

But he has cautioned his supporters against overconfidence and most polls now put his lead in single digits.

Obama, 47, who would be the first black president, enjoys strong support among black, Hispanic, Catholic and Jewish voters while the 72-year-old McCain holds a narrower lead among male and white voters.

Women, who are expected to be an important factor in the election, still favor Obama by a 6-point margin, although this has been declining in recent days.

Independent Ralph Nader drew 2 percent support in the poll, conducted Saturday through Tuesday, while Libertarian Bob Barr registered 1 percent, both little changed.

The rolling tracking poll surveyed 1,210 likely voters in the presidential election. In a tracking poll, the most recent day's results are added while the oldest day's results are dropped in an effort to track changing momentum.

The U.S. president is determined not by the most votes nationally but by a majority of the Electoral College, which has 538 members allotted to all 50 states and the District of Columbia in proportion to their representation in Congress.
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Re: tick tock
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 09:57:18 AM »
I think it is important to vote.  If Obama is elected, so be it.  That is America.  But I do want it to be a fair vote.  I'm more worried about Congress than I am who is elected President.  If a super majority is reached by the Democrats, it will have far reaching effects on legislation and Supreme Court nominees.  I believe the country is going to move more toward socialism regardless of who wins the presidency.  It is a question of how much?
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Re: tick tock
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2008, 12:41:23 PM »
It's dropped to an 5% average lead on RCP. There still is no hope.
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Re: tick tock
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 12:52:12 PM »
http://townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2008/10/15/eighty-four_percent_say_theyd_never_lie_to_a_pollster

I don't normally read Ann Coulter, but she has a point about polls and their history.  Anyway, just means that everyone should vote and don't worry about what the polls say.
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Re: tick tock
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 01:20:08 PM »
It's dropped to an 5% average lead on RCP. There still is no hope.
5 points in the polls is a draw in the booth      but i can't quote a white paper on it
if the trend continues it will be good
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: tick tock
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2008, 01:29:12 PM »
5 points in the polls is a draw in the booth      but i can't quote a white paper on it
if the trend continues it will be good

Yes, yes it will.
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Re: tick tock
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2008, 04:02:01 PM »
Whistling past the graveyard.  Obama has this election sewn up.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2008, 09:15:43 PM »
Whistling past the graveyard.  Obama has this election sewn up.

I hope you are wrong.  Obama's history of destroying the bill of rights and SLAPP suppression scares the crap out of me.

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2008, 07:39:24 AM »
I hope I am wrong, too, wacki, but I doubt that I am.  So much points to Obama being a typical, dirty, corrupt Chicago pol, willing to do anything to win.  I think it's working for him.
If there really was intelligent life on other planets, we'd be sending them foreign aid.

Conservatives see George Orwell's "1984" as a cautionary tale.  Progressives view it as a "how to" manual.

My wife often says to me, "You are evil and must be destroyed." She may be right.

Liberals believe one should never let reason, logic and facts get in the way of a good emotional argument.