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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2008, 12:40:51 PM »
Quote from: BridgeWalker on November 02, 2008, 08:03:00 PM
I'm not remotely an alarmist.  I'm not remotely a survivalist.  I'm intentionally less than cautious about daily risks because I've made the assessment about what I want to worry about, and random violence isn't usually on the list.

But the blank hostility, the vandalizing political signs (including having our McCain-Palin sticker ripped off our car the other night), the talk of taking to the streets, have me concerned.

East Lansing is famous for its riots.  Generally, they follow big football games and are confined to East Lansing.  East Lansing is pretty solidly Dem.  Lansing is very mixed, in every way, including politically.  Some of our neighbors have become openly hostile to us.

I am not kidding at all, several of my profs and colleagues have mentioned being ready to take to the streets.

Good time for an evening out of town?  Head up to a smaller, less volatile town a ways off?  Stay home and make sure firearms are in their proper, handy places?  Get over it, and realize that talk is cheap and everything will be ok, at least in the immediate sense? 

I don't think MSU has had any politically related riots in quite some time, though I am sure it is possible.  You have had professors saying they were going to take it to the street?  What department are they in?
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2008, 01:01:39 PM »
I live in quiet, low-crime area outside of Austin . . . yes, it's the most liberal city in Texas, so much so that the rest of the state refers to it as "Moscow on the Colorado."

I don't envision any major problems regardless of the election's outcome, but any civil unrest would likely be confined to downtown, the entertainment district (Sixth Street, if you know the city) and around the University. Broken windows, trash cans set on fire, that sort of thing.

If it were to spill into the neighborhoods, well, this is still Texas, and rioting in a residential area to the degree that residents felt threatened would likely bring a response from some of the residents that the rioters would not appreciate . . .

Those that survived, at least.
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2008, 07:04:10 PM »
If I had a way to iwb carry a Glock 22 while wearing a toolbelt I would carry 24/7 for the next few months.

since that is unfeasible at best I'll have to wait till I can get a PF9 and an ankle holster... =(
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2008, 07:05:35 PM »
They are now mentioning a possibility that Obama could win the popular vote, and McCain carry the electoral college.

There WILL be riots if that happens, bet on it.
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2008, 08:30:22 PM »
Quote from: Manedwolf on November 03, 2008, 07:05:35 PM
They are now mentioning a possibility that Obama could win the popular vote, and McCain carry the electoral college.

There WILL be riots if that happens, bet on it.

Governing without the "mandate" and his party out of power in the legislature would make McCain a lame duck for four years.

OTOH, having the bright shiny-eyed true believers having their noses rubbed in the fact we are still a Republic, might be worth a few burned buildings, missing TV's, and broken windows...
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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2008, 08:53:42 PM »
We do not anticipate pro-Obama rioting.

At all.

Nonetheless, there will be a carbine handy.

And other stuff.

Now, on the other hand, I work in Spokane.  That's gonna be more different.  If it looks too stupid, I will simply declare a sick day.

And stay home.

In North Idaho.

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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2008, 09:20:50 PM »
Shotgun in the truck tomorrow instead of the usual .22 rifle.  Can't hurt to be cautious.
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2008, 09:33:44 PM »
3 tactical shotguns, two EBR's with 30 rounders, my Springfield Armory 1911A1 with 10 round Wilson Combat mags, my Kimber CDP with 7 round Wilson Combat,  and an extra S&W 642 and speed loaders for Mrs. Anygun to accompany her existing 642.

Bring it.

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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2008, 09:43:35 PM »
This thread is getting silly. 
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2008, 09:45:56 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Tactical pants on November 03, 2008, 09:43:35 PM
This thread is getting silly. 

Concur.  While it doesn't hurt to be prepared, some of this is just overblown.
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2008, 09:47:34 PM »
I'll have a handgun on my belt, and a long gun ready to go in the bedroom.  Of course, this is what I have all the time, my basic every-day defensive setup.  I see no benefit to doing more than that at this time.
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2008, 09:53:44 PM »
Being prepared is fine.  I wish I could afford to do a little more.  As it is, I'm topping off all the guns I have here.  And I might put Luke's SKS in the truck.  (His guns live at my house.)

It's just a little funny to see so many people lay out how many of which kinds of guns, and how many magazines and rounds, and where they're putting them, and so on and so forth.  :P
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2008, 10:10:11 PM »
Quote from: Zed on November 03, 2008, 07:04:10 PM
If I had a way to iwb carry a Glock 22 while wearing a toolbelt I would carry 24/7 for the next few months.

since that is unfeasible at best I'll have to wait till I can get a PF9 and an ankle holster... =(

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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2008, 10:14:03 PM »
I'll join the "OTT" fray

I'll be packing a 1911 for the remainder of the week, instead of ,my usual airweight S&W.  never can be too careful, and a .45 with 24 potential rnds including reloads just does something to ease the mind.

That, and I'll be waking up my M4's, and letting them stay out with the usual HD 870's for the week, should things go pear shaped.
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2008, 10:32:22 PM »
Quote from: Thor on November 03, 2008, 10:10:11 PM
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Dosn't work with a Tool Belt
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2008, 10:38:26 PM »
All I've got is my AK and 5 mags and 120 rounds of ammo, :(, stored in my car, because thats where it has been sitting for a while not because I think there could be a riot. I'll be at work from 5-9 tomorrow. Highly doubt there would be one here anyways.
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2008, 10:48:32 PM »
Hooray for me! I get to go to Salem for training tomorrow! At least I'll be home shortly after dark.
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #67 on: November 03, 2008, 10:52:13 PM »
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It's just a little funny to see so many people lay out how many of which kinds of guns, and how many magazines and rounds, and where they're putting them, and so on and so forth. 
That is rather amusing.  Being ready is good.  Advertising is perhaps unwise.  I know, we're all relatively anonymous, and we take a defensive posture rather than starting trouble.  Still, walk softly.
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #68 on: November 03, 2008, 10:57:21 PM »
Quote from: Thor on November 03, 2008, 10:10:11 PM
SmartCarry.........

Quote from: Zed on November 03, 2008, 10:32:22 PM
Dosn't work with a Tool Belt

...esp. if a tool belt is all you're wearing....  :O



What about a belly-band-style holster?...or a Kangaroo Holster?...

http://www.gunblast.com/Kangaroo.htm
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #69 on: November 03, 2008, 11:26:41 PM »
Quote from: Azrael256 on November 03, 2008, 10:52:13 PM
That is rather amusing.  Being ready is good.  Advertising is perhaps unwise.

I'm more amused by the macho posturing.   :lol:
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #70 on: November 03, 2008, 11:29:16 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Tactical pants on November 03, 2008, 09:53:44 PM
Being prepared is fine.  I wish I could afford to do a little more.  As it is, I'm topping off all the guns I have here.  And I might put Luke's SKS in the truck.  (His guns live at my house.)

It's just a little funny to see so many people lay out how many of which kinds of guns, and how many magazines and rounds, and where they're putting them, and so on and so forth.  :P

I have things. They do stuff.

I do not get that specific about them in this sort of context on a public forum. :)
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2008, 11:36:54 PM »
I'll have my .45, which is always with me. And my .357 snubby. And my .32 ankle gun.

For close quarters should anyone breach the front door, I'll have my 12 gauge.

If the action's on the street in front of my house here in the 'burbs, I'll have my AR with an EOTech 553 and night vision.

Just to be safe, though, I'll perch my Remington 700 .308 with 6.5x20x50 Leupold at an upstairs window pointed toward the main drag two blocks away. If anyone so much as shouts "Oba...," I'll drop him before he even hears the shot. If it's a counter-sniper, I'll nail him right through his scope.

I might just give my dog my WWI trench knife. His eyesight is gone, but he's still pretty spunky for an old terrier.

Ya just can't be too careful these days.

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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #72 on: November 03, 2008, 11:51:28 PM »
I'm pretty jealous.  The only adequate self defense gun I had here was an 870 that was my dad's and he just took it back for hunting season.
Looks like I'll be fighting off the horde with a single barrel shotgun.  At least I have frack loads of target shells I loaded, and a few buckshot.
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2008, 11:58:33 PM »
Quote from: SteveS on November 03, 2008, 12:40:51 PM
I don't think MSU has had any politically related riots in quite some time, though I am sure it is possible. 

No, they haven't.  But if you can burn and loot because of a football match, probably you can burn and loot because of an election.

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You have had professors saying they were going to take it to the street?  What department are they in?

Not at State.   
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Re: Civil unrest?
« Reply #74 on: November 04, 2008, 12:36:09 AM »
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I might just give my dog my WWI trench knife. His eyesight is gone, but he's still pretty spunky for an old terrier.
I'm giving my 3" Gerber folder to my oldest male cat, Guido.  His little brother, Vincent, gets the Buck Vanguard, since Vinnie is larger framed.  I think Shadow, the female, can summon Ramuh, so she's pretty well set (I'm actually kinda serious about that).  Zelda, the GSD/Akita has her choice of the battleaxe, or this badass ninja/samurai sword with the snake wrapped around the handle that I got at a gunshow.  I figured either one is appropriate given her lineage.  She's like kawaii-uber-awesome being German AND Japanese.  Poodles surrender when they see her.

The Pug, of course, is always armed with her... um... "chemical weapon," but I'll have a spike bayonet that I got off my friend's dad's Chinese SKS he brought back from 'nam if she wants it.


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