Change.gov

[RadioFreeSeaLab]

Yes, www.change.gov is real.  Office of the President-elect.  Enjoy everyone.

[French G.]

# Address Gun Violence in Cities:  As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

From "urban Policy."  It's the liberal wet dream platform. So much for ASHA and their "Obama is the gunowner's friend" tripe.

Lots of other really fun stuff in there, still digging. Can we have the 2010 elections early?

[charby]

They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

GRRRRRRR

[Manedwolf]

Is anyone really surprised at all?

They can go ahead and try. 2010 will be 1994 again.

That whole document is a trainwreck.

Increase the Supply of Affordable Housing throughout Metropolitan Regions: Communities prosper when all families have access to affordable housing. Barack Obama and Joe Biden supported efforts to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund to create thousands of new units of affordable housing every year. Barack Obama and Joe Biden will also restore cuts to public housing operating subsidies, and ensure that all Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) programs are restored to their original purpose.

HAY GUYS LET'S TRY PROJECTS AGAIN IT WON'T FAIL THIS TIME ALL OVER AGAIN!!!

[charby]

Create the American Opportunity Tax Credit: Obama and Biden will make college affordable for all Americans by creating a new American Opportunity Tax Credit. This universal and fully refundable credit will ensure that the first $4,000 of a college education is completely free for most Americans, and will cover two-thirds the cost of tuition at the average public college or university and make community college tuition completely free for most students. Recipients of the credit will be required to conduct 100 hours of community service.

Thats $40 per hour... 

Can it be retroactive for current student loans. I'll work 100 hours to have 4k paid off.

[Nightfall]

Within a day of being elected, our new President has a website that, in part, states his support for a new and expanded AWB.

It's going to be a great 4-8 years.  :rolleyes:

[Physics]

I'm thinking we're screwed.  This is not going to be pleasant.

[French G.]

The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.

Compulsory education just got more compulsory. How to enforce on private and home school elitist children?

[Manedwolf]

Compulsory education just got more compulsory. How to enforce on private and home school elitist children?

Ban home schooling? Threaten parents that their children will be taken away by social services if they try it?

[Mabs2]

I am scared.
What are the chances of us fighting off another AWB? 

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Compulsory labor for all of the children?  Is this guy serious?

[Manedwolf]

I am scared.
What are the chances of us fighting off another AWB? 

Slim and none? It would be a political kamikaze on their part, but you cannot dissuade True Believers...

Of course, they could also get away with it just like Frank and Schumer got away with the housing debacle, if the remaining Republicans nearsightedly flail and fail to catch an easy lob tossed their way...as they have repeatedly.

[Mabs2]

Yeesh. 

[GigaBuist]

Within a day of being elected, our new President has a website that, in part, states his support for a new and expanded AWB.

It's going to be a great 4-8 years.  :rolleyes:

Bush went on the TV and said he'd sign the AWB if it his his desk in 2003.  Granted, that was with a Republican controlled Congress, and he knew it wouldn't ever happen, but he was saying pretty much the same thing as Obama is.

When the Democrats took control of Congress in 2006 they still couldn't pass one, even with a president that said he's sign it.

McCain wants to close the "gun show loophole" too.  He said it at the NRA convention this year.

Now, the Democrats picked up more seats in the House and Senate in this election, but they could very well still not have the votes to get one through.

Are we in danger of another AWB?  Yes, but not much more than we were for the last two years.

[French G.]

I found proof the world is going to end. No, not on change.gov, they'll get that on there tomorrow. On here! Yet another thread got moved into Political!

[wmenorr67]

I have to agree with Giga on something.  Yes the Dems picked up some extra seats in both the House and Senate.  But I would give you even odds that the seats that they picked up were more conservative Dems and would be against anymore gun laws.

[RevDisk]

Let's see what the run down on Urban policy is.   

http://www.change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy/

Create an Office of Urban Policy
Another low income housing project
Throwing more money at No Child Left Behind
$200 million in planning grants
Doubling federal funding for basic research
More money for training programs
Women and minority owned business grants and favorable loans
$250 million per year for venture capitalists
Manditory manufacturing overhauls to make our decreasing manufacturing base more green
$35 billion per year into infrastructure
More money into public transportation
'Green' jobs for low income workers
Re-creating the subprime market
More money to low income housing
raise the minimum wage to $9.50 (plus potential 'living wage')
More money to low income families (earned income tax credits)
$1 billion to low income workers
More money to public transportation
More taxing on superfund polluters
Manditory building codes tightening for energy efficiency
More money to low income housing
More money to poor quality schools or teachers
$10 billion to preschool activities
More money to low income schools
More money to local police, with strings of 'address police brutality and accountability issues'
More money to prison work programs
More money to high crime neighborhoods
Banning all EBR's
Banning racial profiling and smacking police if they do not spend tickets across all ethnic groups
More money to homeland security
More money to emergency services
More money to interoperable communications systems (this one I actually approve of)
More money to public transportation
More money to low income families
More money to single mothers
More money to low-income, first-time mothers
More money to afterschool programs
More money to low income families
Capping payday loan rates
Creating a subprime payday loan market


This is only one of 24 topics, plus a 'misc' catagory.

[RaspberrySurprise]

Well that was just a steaming hot cup of rage.

[nate.45]

Dang RevDisk, I'll bet G.W. is mad he won't be the one to get to sign all that spending legislation.

[dogmush]

More fun, I'm pretty sure we just lost another war to insurgents.  This makes us what, 0 for 2 against an insurgancy now. 

Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe we must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. Immediately upon taking office, Obama will give his Secretary of Defense and military commanders a new mission in Iraq: ending the war. The removal of our troops will be responsible and phased, directed by military commanders on the ground and done in consultation with the Iraqi government. Military experts believe we can safely redeploy combat brigades from Iraq at a pace of 1 to 2 brigades a month that would remove them in 16 months. That would be the summer of 2010 – more than 7 years after the war began.

[Cobalt60]

Arbeit macht frei, Kameraden.

And don't forget the Brown Shirts, er, "civilian national security force".

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69601

[RocketMan]

Are we in danger of another AWB?  Yes, but not much more than we were for the last two years.

Gun control is no longer the third rail of American politics.  Those that claim it is are whistling past the graveyard. 
The Democrats will be in firm control of both branches of Congress.  There will be a avowed gun grabber Socialist in the White House.  None of them will remember the consequences of their earlier mistakes.  They will offer up an Assault Weapons ban bill to The One.  He will sign it.  We are in serious trouble.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

They will offer up an Assault Weapons ban bill to The One.  He will sign it.  We are in serious trouble.

Absolutely true.

[GigaBuist]

Obama will give his Secretary of Defense and military commanders a new mission in Iraq: ending the war.

What a quaint idea.  Oh how I long for the days when our politicians yearned for extending wars!

You know what?  I can't even respond in satire.

I'm not going to research this one tonight, so I might be wrong as I'm just going from memory, and feel free to dog-pile on me if I am wrong, but a Republican was in office at the end of WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and Gulf War I.  Democrats were in control of the Oval Office when we got involved in WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam.  The Bush family is rather unique as Republicans go in actually starting a war during their watch.  The only other Republican president to hold office when a war broke out was Abraham Lincoln.  I'm ignoring Reagan and Grenada intentionally because I have a hard time calling that a war.  Waco was more of a war than that incident.

When did Republican supporters start thinking along the lines that wars are good?  It's a rhetorical question as I know the answer is somewhere between 2001-2004 but I continue to be amazed that Republican supporters think this nonsense is a good idea.

I don't get it.  I honestly don't.

[dogmush]

War isin't good.  Actually being here sucks pretty bad. But if you read the entire sectio I quoted you'll find this little gem at the bottom:

1 to 2 brigades a month that would remove them in 16 months. That would be the summer of 2010

Let me throw some facts at you here.

Iraq WILL NOT have a stable gov in 2010.

If we leave then Iraq WILL devolve into a civil war.  Now in addition to the millions of people that will  kill, it will leave Iraq open to invasion by it's neighbors.  Can anyone think of a nation near Iraq that already doesn't like it AND is having budget issues because of cheap oil?  Maybe a nation that wouldn't mind more oilfields?  Anyone?  Bueller?  In addition to turning Baghdad into a Mogadishu-esque hell hole (perfect for raising desperate suicide bombers) the oncoming Iraqi civil war will affect worldwide oil prices by disrupting the oil supply from the mideast and may very well make Iseral nervous enough to do something preemptive. (that' will deped on which of the vultures on Iraq's border decide to eat first)

All of this our soon to be CinC would already know if he haden't spent his 1 (!) visit to the theater shooting basketball on Arifjan and sipping tea in the IZ. But hey, he already had his platform when he came here and was too busy to talk to the folks on the ground here, we might have messed up his plan.

So by all means, lets end the war.  As much fun as the multiple deployment extra leave is, and I love getting knock off DVD's for cheap I'd like to go home and see my wife.  But lets try to end it in a way that doesn'tinvolve me having to come back in 4 years to open a ne theater and play with an actual occyping force, shall we?

I'm not attacking him because he wants to end the war, I'm attacking him because he read the introduction to a bad translation of Von Clauswitz and thinks he's a Stratigic genius now.