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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2008, 05:01:25 PM »
Well, it seems the gap is narrowing.  From 25,000 to less than 2,000.
I see the gap in the recounted ballots at 3970, not just under 2k . . . are you using Democrat arithmetic?

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2008, 09:02:37 PM »
Hey, at least Franken will leave the country if he loses...  :laugh: ;)

http://feedyouradhd.blogspot.com/2008/11/franken-vows-to-leave-country.html

Disgusted with an elections process that won’t allow him to steal enough votes to win, (not so funny) comedian Al Franken (D) vowed today to leave the country as soon as possible.

“Damn. I really thought those crackpots on the Board of Canvassers were going to let me win this thing, but they apparently believe in fair elections up here,” Franken said, flapping his ample lips. “This is ridiculous. If a man can’t steal an election, how can we say there is liberty and freedom to pursue happiness in this country? I’m going to leave this friggin’ place. It’s not socialist enough yet. I’ll go live with Sean Penn…or maybe Alec Baldwin. He’s funnier than I am.”

Franken made his statement after the Minnesota Board of Canvassers unanimously rejected his request to count 12,000 absentee ballots in a recount of the state’s hotly contested Senate race.

At the start of the recount Franken trailed Sen. Norm Coleman (R-Minn.) by 215 votes, of the 2.9 million ballots cast. Officials have recounted about 80 percent of the ballots, and Coleman maintains a slim lead.

The two campaigns are challenging about 3,600 votes, including 500 for Prince, 427 for former Minnesota governor Jesse “The Body” Ventura, and another 427 for Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson.

“Clearly those voters intended to vote for me,” Franken said. “None of those guys is a Republican, anyway. You know everybody loves me here. Just look at me: I have an electable face!”

Franken has fallen on hard times since the progressive Air America radio network failed to win advertisers and had to go underground (like your humble narrator) to the Internet. Most recently he was selling shoes at a discount store in Minneapolis at the Mall of America under the name of Al Bundy.

Baldwin could not be reached for comment. He and Penn were attending a charity event at a terrorist training camp in Pakistan.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2008, 11:53:06 PM »
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman   1103291
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken   1107528
 
Recounted Data   Totals   Percent
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted)   1100922   41.37
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted)   1105030   41.52
RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted)   449235   16.88
RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN   2876   0.11
RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN   3067   0.12
 
Percentage of Ballots Recounted = 91.13 %

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2008, 01:22:22 AM »
Well that's a kick in the crotch.  =|
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2008, 08:16:40 AM »
Well that's a kick in the crotch.  =|

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2008, 08:34:12 AM »
There's a 4,000 vote gap. 6,000 votes to be counted.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2008, 10:05:47 AM »
According to this morning's Star Tribune, Coleman is up by 340 votes.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2008, 10:57:36 AM »
Be careful if Franken shows up at the recount place wearing some of those baggy Sandy Berger pants...
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2008, 04:18:20 PM »
I wonder how fresh the ink is on some of those Franken ballots?
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2008, 12:00:07 AM »
I just know that everybody in America is wondering how this is going to affect.......

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2008, 12:27:51 AM »
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2008, 10:11:13 AM »
Coleman lost 37 votes as of yesterday at this time, according to the Star Tribune.

He's now up by 303 votes.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2008, 10:18:44 AM »
I hope the Mpls Red Star's source is better and more accurate than the MN .gov link at the beginning of this thread, which shows Franken with a lead of 2535, with 92.69% of the recount done. (Not including challenged ballots.)
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2008, 10:39:34 AM »
According to FNC this morning, a number of ballots not previously counted, have now been "found".

I smell a rat.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2008, 10:40:43 AM »
Latest update

Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman 1122217
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken 1124840
   
Recounted Data Totals Percent
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted) 1119878 41.38
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted) 1122413 41.47
RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted) 458290 16.93

RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN 2910 0.11
RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN 3093 0.11

Percentage of Ballots Recounted = 92.69 %

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2008, 10:55:43 AM »
Then where the hell is the Star Tribune getting their figures?
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2008, 12:56:47 PM »
Even the Associated Press is saying that Coleman is ahead...
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2008, 01:42:55 PM »
New ballots "found" . . . ???

Found??

If someone took the trouble to lift fingerprints off those new "found" ballots, I wonder if one or two sets would show up with significantly more frequency than others.

Sounds like a job for Jim March.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2008, 02:19:11 PM »
Then where the hell is the Star Tribune getting their figures?
Basically what they're doing is they're comparing recount figures to original count figures for the precincts that have reported recount results, and are assuming no change from the original count for the precincts that have not yet reported recount results. 

It'll all come down to how the ballot challenges come out.  Both sides have challanged around 3000 ballots and if the courts side more with Franken he might be able to steal it.  But at the current rate, Franken would have to win around 10% more of the challanges than Colman just to even up the count.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2008, 02:54:55 PM »
Aparently Franken has some magic formula that predicts how many challenges he'll win; and he's releasing that number to the press.

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The topsy-turvy Minnesota Senate race just took another twist when the Al Franken camp announced on a conference call with reporters that it believes Franken is now ahead of Sen. Norman Coleman in the recount -- by less than two dozen votes.

This is predicated on the Franken camp's methodology for counting challenged ballots, which is not unreasonable but also not foolproof.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2008, 03:03:38 PM »
Aparently Franken has some magic formula that predicts how many challenges he'll win; and he's releasing that number to the press.


The formula is easy:

i) you find out you are behind by 200 votes
ii) you "search the back seat of a staffers car" for 300 votes
iii) you are now ahead by 100 votes.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2008, 11:07:20 PM »
The formula is easy:

i) you find out you are behind by 200 votes
ii) you "search the back seat of a staffers car" for 300 votes
iii) you are now ahead by 100 votes.



The staffers car story was debunked.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2008, 04:57:15 AM »
The staffers car story was debunked.

According to FNC, the newly "found" ballots were found in a machine that failed on election day.

Apparently they gave Al Franken a 36 vote bounce.

I still smell a rat.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2008, 04:58:27 AM »
Last update

Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman   1177465
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken   1188736
 
Recounted Data   Totals   Percent
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted)   1174964   41.24
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted)   1186134   41.63
RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted)   481922   16.91
RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN   3085   0.11
RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN   3241   0.11
 
Percentage of Ballots Recounted = 97.58 %

* These totals do not include results for 633 challenged ballots that were withdrawn by the Al Franken campaign.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2008, 09:49:14 AM »
According to FNC, the newly "found" ballots were found in a machine that failed on election day.

Apparently they gave Al Franken a 36 vote bounce.

I still smell a rat.

I will find a link to the debunking, but basically what I remember was, electionworkers didn't get the box to the clearinghouse before it closed, so they ended up taking the box to city hall, and both parties minders agreed on how it was to be secured until the next day.
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