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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2008, 04:34:53 PM »
Today's Ann Coulter column included this point made by John Lott:

"Just this week, liberal Ramsey County "discovered" 171 new votes from a single voting machine in a single precinct. An analysis by John Lott shows that these newly "discovered" votes represent yet another statistical improbability that favors Franken: Despite the fact that Maplewood precinct No. 6 gave Franken only 45.4 percent of the original, untampered-with vote, the newly "discovered" votes gave Franken 53.2 percent of the vote."

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2008, 04:43:36 PM »
According to today's Star Tribune, Coleman's lead is back up to 316 votes.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2008, 06:30:37 PM »
I will find a link to the debunking, but basically what I remember was, electionworkers didn't get the box to the clearinghouse before it closed, so they ended up taking the box to city hall, and both parties minders agreed on how it was to be secured until the next day.

This is a different story.

I believe the one story of which you speak, was the ballots in the trunk of the car of an election worker. A story which was debunked.

I am speaking of the 174 (?) ballots found in the ballot machine, just a couple days ago.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2008, 01:32:07 PM »
According to the Star Tribune, the recount is over and Coleman has a 251 vote lead.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2008, 01:59:06 PM »
If Coleman has the lead with anything less than a couple of thousand votes, somehow I think it really won't be over. If it were Franken with 251, then that would be a significant and indisputable lead.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2008, 02:01:04 PM »
According to the Star Tribune, the recount is over and Coleman has a 251 vote lead.

Bet you Franken will sue. Air America didn't know when to quit, either.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2008, 02:07:47 PM »
Bet you Franken will sue. Air America didn't know when to quit, either.

I wonder if Franken will use the Air America fundraising scheme to pay for the suit?  Does he have access to any charities he can embezzle funds from?

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2008, 02:46:49 PM »
Last update

Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman   1210995
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken   1210285
 
Recounted Data   Totals   Percent
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted)   1208344   41.41
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted)   1207657   41.38
RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted)   495475   16.98
RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN   3280   0.11
RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN   3375   0.12
 
Percentage of Ballots Recounted = 99.93 %

* These totals do not include results for any challenged ballots that were withdrawn by the candidates.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2008, 02:49:58 PM »
According to the Star Tribune, the recount is over and Coleman has a 251 vote lead.

I don't know how the recount can be over, when the issue of the disputed ballots still remains to be resolved.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2008, 02:51:28 PM »
It won't be over until Franken concedes, and I don't think he plans to concede just yet.
And I believe the various public officials involved with the recount will allow Franken to keep this thing alive for awhile longer, at least until some other legal action forces them to wrap this up.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2008, 03:34:54 PM »
Too bad they didn't have a run-off provision like in GA.  That would have made the recount unnecessary.  Whoever won, at least there wouldn't be so much acrimony.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2008, 03:52:00 PM »
Too bad they didn't have a run-off provision like in GA.  That would have made the recount unnecessary.  Whoever won, at least there wouldn't be so much acrimony.

Very true.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #62 on: December 08, 2008, 04:32:50 PM »
Looks like at 710 vote lead for Coleman......

Anybody want to give odds on them finding..... oh say.... 800 Franken ballots ??


(And how come they NEVER find any missing Republican ballots ??) ;/ :mad:
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #63 on: December 08, 2008, 04:40:33 PM »
Looks like at 710 vote lead for Coleman......

Anybody want to give odds on them finding..... oh say.... 800 Franken ballots ??


(And how come they NEVER find any missing Republican ballots ??) ;/ :mad:

You were saying?

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Franken's campaign said that a dozen "UOCAVA" ballots had been found in a Minneapolis-area warehouse by election officials searching for 133 ballots gone missing during the hand recount in the urban center's 3rd ward, 1st precinct. The ballots come from uniformed and overseas voters and were previously unopened and counted, Franken officials said.

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/12/08/more-ballots-found-in-minnesota-senate-recount/

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #64 on: December 08, 2008, 08:09:49 PM »
If Coleman's lead is 710, why would they even bother opening and counting 133 missing ballots?

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #65 on: December 08, 2008, 08:25:46 PM »
Too bad they didn't have a run-off provision like in GA.  That would have made the recount unnecessary.  Whoever won, at least there wouldn't be so much acrimony.

Very true, and then they'd be forced to cheat all over again... Pretty much clinching a Coleman win, because you'd never be able to rile up the Obamanoids to come out in those numbers again.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #66 on: December 08, 2008, 08:40:09 PM »
If Coleman's lead is 710, why would they even bother opening and counting 133 missing ballots?

It reduces the number of ballots they have to "find" over the next few days.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #67 on: December 08, 2008, 10:40:01 PM »
Considering how angry Franken was when "Bush stole the election" I just know that he wouldn't do the same thing.

Yeah, I don't buy it either.  It's a shame, I actually LIKE Al Franken, but I like lots of people I don't want in the Senate, or politics in general.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2008, 11:23:53 PM »
Considering how angry Franken was when "Bush stole the election" I just know that he wouldn't do the same thing.

Yeah, I don't buy it either.  It's a shame, I actually LIKE Al Franken, but I like lots of people I don't want in the Senate, or politics in general.

Buffett is a fanstastic rocker as well.  I still wouldn't trust the dude to make our laws...

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #69 on: December 09, 2008, 02:02:45 AM »
I used to be a huge fan of this guy.
What happened? did I grow up or did he get really immature?
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #70 on: December 09, 2008, 03:31:56 PM »
I used to be a huge fan of this guy.
What happened? did I grow up or did he get really immature?

He hates Bush
Paul Wellstone, his friend, died.
He took both personally, and I think he feels somehow beating Norm Coleman will do something.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #71 on: December 09, 2008, 03:40:26 PM »
I used to be a huge fan of this guy.
What happened? did I grow up or did he get really immature?

I'm thinking you must have matured. I have never liked his so called comedy, has always invoked a combination gag/push his face in reflex with me.
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #72 on: December 09, 2008, 03:59:34 PM »
I have always found him to be painfully unfunny.

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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #73 on: December 09, 2008, 04:59:15 PM »
Even when he was trying to be funny his "humor" came across as strained.

Now that he's been political for a while, his "humor" isn't even funny . . . it's in the realm of "Oooh, look at me, I'm so clever I can call him names! And make funny faces at people I don't like!"  ;/
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Re: Coleman-Franken senatorial recount update
« Reply #74 on: December 09, 2008, 05:06:18 PM »
The Stewart Smalley episode with Michael Jordan was a gut-buster.  But that was mainly because of Jordan. 

Imagine Al Franken trying to convince Michael Jordan that he (Michael Jordan) is not a contemptible failure that everyone hates.   :lol:
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