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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2008, 01:03:38 PM »
He wasn't soliciting for a bribe.

He was asking for a bailout

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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2008, 01:48:28 PM »
Merged threads...

It's gonna be a nice Christmas to see Blagojevich in handcuffs, though.   =D
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2008, 03:07:27 PM »
He wasn't soliciting for a bribe.

He was asking for a bailout

Of course now that I said that.....

Will he be bailed out?

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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2008, 04:07:01 PM »
So wait, counting that Repub. guy, 5 of the governors since '61 have been arrested? Out of how many total?
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2008, 04:22:58 PM »
$4500 bail?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/09/illinois.governor/index.html

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
NEW: Gov. Rod Blagojevich released on $4,500 bail, forfeits passport
NEW: Barack Obama says he had "no contact" as governor chose his successor
Blagojevich arrested, accused of conspiring to sell Obama's Senate seat
Governor can still appoint Obama's successor despite arrest, U.S. attorney says


CNN) -- Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich appeared in court Tuesday afternoon to hear federal corruption charges against him. Bail was set at $4,500, and Blagojevich was then released on his own recognizance.


Rod Blagojevich is serving his second term as governor of Illinois.

The governor, who appeared in court in a blue jogging suit, also had to forfeit his passport.

FBI agents arrested Blagojevich and his chief of staff, John Harris, early Tuesday on federal corruption charges related in part to the selection of President-elect Barack Obama's successor to the Senate, the U.S. attorney's office said.

U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald declared Tuesday a "sad day for government."

"Gov. Blagojevich has taken us to a new low," he said. "This conduct would make [Abraham] Lincoln roll over in his grave."

Fitzgerald said the government had bugged the governor's campaign office and placed a tap on his home phone.

Obama reacted to the news at a press conference on Tuesday.

"Obviously, like the rest of the people of Illinois, I am saddened and sobered by the news that came out of the U.S. attorney's office today," he said. "But as this is an ongoing investigation involving the governor, I don't think it would be appropriate for me to comment on the issue at this time."

When asked by reporters whether he had any contact with Blagojevich about the Senate seat, Obama said he had no contact with the governor or his office.

"I was not aware of what was happening," he added.

Fitzgerald said the case required "unusual measures" because of actions Blagojevich was expected to take soon, including filling the vacant Senate seat. "There were a lot of things going on that were imminent," he said.

"We were in the middle of a corruption crime scene and we wanted to stop it," Fitzgerald said. 

One big question now is whether Blagojevich retains the right to name Obama's successor if he remains in custody or even under indictment. The answer is yes, according to Fitzgerald.

Jay Stewart, executive director of Chicago's Better Government Association, agreed. He said Blagojevich retains the right to fill the senate vacancy until he's out of office, which won't happen unless he quits or is removed from office by impeachment.

At a press conference Tuesday, Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, a Democrat, said he wants the Illinois Legislature to act quickly to pass a law setting a special election to fill Obama's seat, in order to prevent Blagojevich from making a tainted appointment or there being a lengthy vacancy in the Senate.

"No appointment by this governor under these circumstances could produce a credible replacement," Durbin said. iReport.com: What do you think of Blagojevich's corruption charges?

Fitzgerald said Blagojevich was looking to pull $8 million in funding for a children's hospital after the hospital's chief executive officer did not give a $50,000 contribution to the governor's campaign.

Also, Fitzgerald said, it was expected that Blagojevich would soon sign into law a bill that would direct a percentage of casino revenue to the horse racing industry -- a bill supported by someone who contributed $100,000.

"To let that bill be signed, to me, would be very, very troubling," Fitzgerald said.

The governor's office, in an afternoon statement, said the allegations "do nothing to impact the services, duties or function of the state."

"Our state will continue to ensure health, safety and economic stability for the citizens of Illinois."

Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn said the governor should use a provision in the Illinois constitution that allows him to step down, but not necessarily to resign. "I recommend to the governor to realize ... that he cannot carry out his responsibilities of office today, and he should, in my opinion, step aside."

Quinn, a Democrat like Blagojevich, said under the provision, a determination can be made later as to whether he can return to office.

Quinn said he had not spoken to Blagojevich at length since summer 2007.

In a 76-page affidavit, federal authorities say wiretaps caught Blagojevich conspiring to sell or trade the vacant Senate seat in exchange for financial benefits for himself and his wife, Patti.

The governor also often weighed the option of appointing himself to the Senate seat, saying he was "stuck" at governor and might have access to more resources as a senator than as a governor, the affidavit says. A Senate seat could also help him remake his image ahead of a possible presidential run in 2016. "If ... they're not going to offer anything of any value, then I might just take it," he said in one conversation.

At times, he discussed obtaining a substantial salary for himself at a nonprofit organization or an organization affiliated with labor unions, as well as placing his wife on paid corporate boards where she might make as much as $150,000 a year, the government said.

During one recorded conversation, Blagojevich said he needed to consider his family and said he was financially hurting, the affidavit said.

"I want to make money," Blagojevich said, according to the affidavit.

The intercepted phone calls also caught the governor and Harris discussing the possibility of the Tribune Company's obtaining assistance from the Illinois Finance Authority in efforts to sell the Cubs and the financing or sale of Wrigley Field, the government said. The company owns the Chicago Tribune, the Cubs, and Wrigley Field.

Blagojevich allegedly directed Harris to tell Tribune officials that state assistance would be withheld unless members of the Chicago Tribune's editorial board were fired. The Illinois governor saw them as "driving discussion of his possible impeachment," the affidavit said.

"Our recommendation is fire all those [expletive] people, get 'em the [expletive] out of there and get us some editorial support," the governor allegedly said in one phone call.

Federal authorities also allege the governor and Harris schemed with others -- including convicted real estate developer Antoin "Tony" Rezko -- to obtain financial benefits for himself, his family and others, including his campaign committee, Friends of Blagojevich.

Reports from the Chicago Tribune last week said federal authorities were investigating the governor and were secretly taping his conversations -- with the help of his former congressional chief of staff, John Wyem.

"I don't believe there's any cloud that hangs over me," Blagojevich told WLS-TV in Chicago on Monday, as he responded to the reports of wiretapping. "I think there's nothing but sunshine hanging over me."

He added, "By the way, I should say if anyone wants to tape my conversations, go right ahead, feel free to do it. I appreciate anybody who wants to tape me openly."

Blagojevich, who turns 52 on Wednesday, is in his second four-year term as Illinois governor. His term ends January 2011.

Before that, he served as a U.S. congressman for Illinois' 5th district from 1997 until 2003, according to his online biography.

He and his wife have two daughters.



The state's last governor, George Ryan, was convicted in April 2006 on racketeering and fraud charges.

Ryan reported to a federal prison in Wisconsin in November 2007 to serve a 6½-year sentence. Earlier this year, the Supreme Court of the United States said it would not hear an appeal from Ryan.
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2008, 04:23:34 PM »
Blago is small potatos...

I'll be impressed and convinced the feds really are trying to stamp out corruption when they arrest Dailey at gunpoint and march his sorry ass off to the joint.
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2008, 05:08:53 PM »
It's gonna be a nice Christmas to see Blagojevich in handcuffs, though.   =D

Epic lolz.  I want perp-walk photos. 


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When asked by reporters whether he had any contact with Blagojevich about the Senate seat, Obama said he had no contact with the governor or his office.

There's a story from a couple of weeks ago, where Rom Emmanuel (or whatever) contradicted that flatly.  It appears the One is lying.   :O
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2008, 05:09:29 PM »
In October, several weeks prior to the election, the Chicago Tribune learned of the investigation. The US Attorney, Fitzgerald, asked that this newspaper sit on the story for a while stating that the investigation would be jeopardized. The Tribune did so.

Would the fact that this was unfolding have any impact on some voters?

Would the fact that this US Attorney is the same one who prosecuted Scooter Libby have any impact on voters?

Timing is great!! Wait till after the election to let this prime example of Chicago politics loose!!

Well, at least the Tribune just went bankrupt.

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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2008, 05:16:42 PM »
In October, several weeks prior to the election, the Chicago Tribune learned of the investigation. The US Attorney, Fitzgerald, asked that this newspaper sit on the story for a while stating that the investigation would be jeopardized. The Tribune did so.

Would the fact that this was unfolding have any impact on some voters?

Would the fact that this US Attorney is the same one who prosecuted Scooter Libby have any impact on voters?

Timing is great!! Wait till after the election to let this prime example of Chicago politics loose!!

Well, at least the Tribune just went bankrupt.

Thank God for change and hope we can believe in.

The Trib learned of the investigation before the feds got their wiretap in place.  If they had leaked the story, it would have probably killed the investigation.
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2008, 05:26:27 PM »
So, Jesse Jackson will not become the senator from Illinois?
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2008, 05:27:21 PM »
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http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/pr/chicago/2008/pr1209_01.pdf

A 76-page FBI affidavit alleges that Blagojevich was intercepted on court-authorized wiretaps during the last month conspiring to sell or trade Illinois’ U.S. Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama for financial and other personal benefits for himself and his wife. At various times, in exchange for the Senate appointment, Blagojevich discussed obtaining:

    a substantial salary for himself at a either a non-profit foundation or an organization affiliated with labor unions;

    placing his wife on paid corporate boards where he speculated she might garner as much as $150,000 a year;

    promises of campaign funds – including cash up front; and

    a cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself.
I don't understand something.  What is described here is nothing less than modus operandi of Washington elite-dom.  Why is it a crime in his case yet ok in the cases of innumerable figures. <shakes head in amazement>
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2008, 05:30:33 PM »
Why the amazement?

He got caught, they didn't (yet).
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2008, 06:14:35 PM »
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U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald declared Tuesday a "sad day for government."

Maybe so, but a good day for the citizens.
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2008, 06:35:30 PM »
Unreal.

I bet his defense will state that the wiretaps were illegal...

So why do we keep electing Democrats and Republicans? Is it because we're more used to their bad actions?

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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2008, 06:51:18 PM »
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The governor, who appeared in court in a blue jogging suit

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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2008, 07:00:09 PM »
So why do we keep electing Democrats and Republicans? Is it because we're more used to their bad actions?


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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2008, 07:03:14 PM »
So why do we keep electing Democrats and Republicans? Is it because we're more used to their bad actions?


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And why don't we get decent people to run in the primaries and then nominate them... oh wait I know the answer to that. When we actually get decent people to run in the primaries, we will then get too scared of the notion and keep voting for same-old, because we are afraid OTHER people will not vote for the decent people in the general.
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2008, 07:06:01 PM »
generally  decent folks avoid politics like hiv
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2008, 07:19:33 PM »
generally  decent folks avoid politics like hiv

Then they shouldn't be surprised at the results.
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2008, 07:35:51 PM »
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$4500 bail?
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and Blagojevich was then released on his own recognizance.
What exactly does that mean? He looks in a mirror and says: "Yup, that's me"?

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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2008, 09:19:39 PM »
There's a story from a couple of weeks ago, where Rom Emmanuel (or whatever) contradicted that flatly.  It appears the One is lying.   :O

Sorry.  It was David Axelrod who said it, in an interview with Chicago's FOX affiliate.  He said that Obama HAD talked with Blago about the successor. 
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2008, 01:26:33 AM »
Sorry.  It was David Axelrod who said it, in an interview with Chicago's FOX affiliate.  He said that Obama HAD talked with Blago about the successor. 

Really.

Well well well well well.

Did the nation just learn a bit more about what Chicago Politics really means, after all?

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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2008, 03:17:59 AM »
Really.

Well well well well well.

Did the nation just learn a bit more about what Chicago Politics really means, after all?
No, not for long atleast. I bet there's a new season of American Idol coming up soon, amirite? After all, what's more important than American Idol? Bread and circus, bread and circus...
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2008, 07:38:00 AM »
Really.

Well well well well well.

Did the nation just learn a bit more about what Chicago Politics really means, after all?

Nope.  The MSM will ignore that point.  The masses are just happy a black man has been elected.  We've changed!
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Re: IL governor Blagojevich in federal custody
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2008, 11:56:34 AM »
Here is a nice photo for the morning...


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