This isn't REAL, right?

[PTK]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83477

Please, please, PLEASE tell me WND is just making things up. Please?

[MicroBalrog]

WND is known for making stuff up/blowing it far out of proportion.

[PTK]

OOoookay, good. Because, seriously, that article made it sound like Obama was going to help usher in a complete police state.

[MillCreek]

Google "power geyser".  Also, please note that these new regulations have been enacted by the current administration, not the incoming one.

PS: the first enabling regulations for using Federal troops for these purposes were enacted in 1997.

[PTK]

So this isn't the beginning so much as it's the continuation of a slide into a state akin to the Nazis' rule in Germany.

[MicroBalrog]

So this isn't the beginning so much as it's the continuation of a slide into a state akin to the Nazis' rule in Germany.

A decades-long slide. ONe that can't be easily attributed to one of the two parties.

[Sindawe]

ONe that can't be easily attributed to one of the two parties.

And there in lies your error, supposing that there ARE two parties.

There are not. 

There is only The Party.

One.

Which present a different mask to appease the masses, garner the votes and convince the Tax Paying Units that they are in charge, when in fact the truth is far, far stranger....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xtNr5-up0U

[Boomhauer]

Damn, that was fast. Sindawe, the video you posted has already been removed...

[MicroBalrog]

Damn, that was fast. Sindawe, the video you posted has already been removed...

No, it hasn't. You do however need a YT membership to watch it.

[PTK]

So... basically, it's real, overblown slightly by WND, but it is real and there's very little I can do about it. Fantastic.  :|

[bmitchell]

Wouldn't this be prohibited under the Posse Comitatus Act or is Congress backing this?

Ben

[RevDisk]

Wouldn't this be prohibited under the Posse Comitatus Act or is Congress backing this?

Ben

PCA is obviously not part of the Constitution.   Congress can amend it whenever they like.  They did so in the 90's (or earlier) to allow military units and equipment to be used for drug interdiction.  So, you can't borrow a HMMWV for off road searches, but you can borrow an entire unit of Blackhawks and Apaches to bust a weed farm.  Seen it done too.  Plenty of National Guard resources are funded for the express purposes of "borrowing them on occassion" for LE tasks.  If Congress amends PCA, any military equipment or personnel can be used domestically for any purposes Congress deems permissable.

[bmitchell]

I didn't intend to imply that PCA was a part of the constitution.

So the question is still whether or not Congress is backing this new use of military force.

Ben

[RevDisk]

I didn't intend to imply that PCA was a part of the constitution.

So the question is still whether or not Congress is backing this new use of military force.

Ben

Bush Doctrine changed that.  I'm not blatantly bashing Bush.  But his administration had the opinion that you went as far as possible in any legal grey area until smacked by Congress or the Courts.  They wrote volumes of legal work blessing the idea that in the absence of very clearly worded "Do not do this!" laws or case law, it was ok.

I doubt future Presidents will voluntarily hand back 'powers' that the Bush administration claimed from murky laws.