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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2009, 11:40:15 AM »
I think obama's future gifts to heads of state would be better chosen by professional diplomats in the US State Department than by a guy who seems to prefer gifts more apropos to the residents of the neighborhoods he used to organize.
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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2009, 01:12:00 PM »
The BBC banned the song.

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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2009, 10:55:08 PM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4953523/Barack-Obama-too-tired-to-give-proper-welcome-to-Gordon-Brown.html


Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown

Barack Obama's offhand approach to Gordon Brown's Washington visit last week came about because the president was facing exhaustion over America's economic crisis and is unable to focus on foreign affairs, the Sunday Telegraph has been told.

Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been "overwhelmed" by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.

British officials, meanwhile, admit that the White House and US State Department staff were utterly bemused by complaints that the Prime Minister should have been granted full-blown press conference and a formal dinner, as has been customary. They concede that Obama aides seemed unfamiliar with the expectations that surround a major visit by a British prime minister.

But Washington figures with access to Mr Obama's inner circle explained the slight by saying that those high up in the administration have had little time to deal with international matters, let alone the diplomatic niceties of the special relationship.

Allies of Mr Obama say his weary appearance in the Oval Office with Mr Brown illustrates the strain he is now under, and the president's surprise at the sheer volume of business that crosses his desk.

A well-connected Washington figure, who is close to members of Mr Obama's inner circle, expressed concern that Mr Obama had failed so far to "even fake an interest in foreign policy".

A British official conceded that the furore surrounding the apparent snub to Mr Brown had come as a shock to the White House. "I think it's right to say that their focus is elsewhere, on domestic affairs. A number of our US interlocutors said they couldn't quite understand the British concerns and didn't get what that was all about."

The American source said: "Obama is overwhelmed. There is a zero sum tension between his ability to attend to the economic issues and his ability to be a proactive sculptor of the national security agenda.

"That was the gamble these guys made at the front end of this presidency and I think they're finding it a hard thing to do everything."

British diplomats insist the visit was a success, with officials getting the chance to develop closer links with Mr Obama's aides. They point out that the president has agreed to meet the prime minister for further one-to-one talks in London later this month, ahead of the G20 summit on April 2.

But they concede that the mood music of the event was at times strained. Mr Brown handed over carefully selected gifts, including a pen holder made from the wood of a warship that helped stamp out the slave trade - a sister ship of the vessel from which timbers were taken to build Mr Obama's Oval Office desk. Mr Obama's gift in return, a collection of Hollywood film DVDs that could have been bought from any high street store, looked like the kind of thing the White House might hand out to the visiting head of a minor African state.

Mr Obama rang Mr Brown as he flew home, in what many suspected was an attempt to make amends.

The real views of many in Obama administration were laid bare by a State Department official involved in planning the Brown visit, who reacted with fury when questioned by The Sunday Telegraph about why the event was so low-key.

The official dismissed any notion of the special relationship, saying: "There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment." The apparent lack of attention to detail by the Obama administration is indicative of what many believe to be Mr Obama's determination to do too much too quickly.

In addition to passing the largest stimulus package and the largest budget in US history, Mr Obama is battling a plummeting stock market, the possible bankruptcy of General Motors, and rising unemployment. He has also begun historic efforts to achieve universal healthcare, overhaul education and begin a green energy revolution all in his first 50 days in office.

The Sunday Telegraph understands that one of Mr Obama's most prominent African American backers, whose endorsement he spent two years cultivating, has told friends that he detects a weakness in Mr Obama's character.

"The one real serious flaw I see in Barack Obama is that he thinks he can manage all this," the well-known figure told a Washington official, who spoke to this newspaper. "He's underestimating the flood of things that will hit his desk." A Democratic strategist, who is friends with several senior White House aides, revealed that the president has regularly appeared worn out and drawn during evening work sessions with senior staff in the West Wing and has been forced to make decisions more quickly than he is comfortable.

He said that on several occasions the president has had to hurry back from eating dinner with his family in the residence and then tucking his daughters in to bed, to conduct urgent government business. Matters are not helped by the pledge to give up smoking.

"People say he looks tired more often than they're used to," the strategist said. "He's still calm, but there have been flashes of irritation when he thinks he's being pushed to make a decision sooner than he wants to make it. He looks like he needs a cigarette."

Mr Obama was teased by the New York Times on Thursday in a front page story which claimed to have detected a greater prevalence of grey hairs since he entered the White House.

The Democratic strategist stressed that Mr Obama's plight was nothing new. "He knew it was going to be tough; he said as much throughout the campaign. But there's a difference between knowing it is going to be tough and facing the sheer relentless pressure of it all."

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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2009, 12:22:18 AM »
Oh, the poor dear.

Suck it up, baby, and drive on. 
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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2009, 12:23:13 AM »
If the job is too much for him, he can always quit.

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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2009, 04:32:21 AM »
If the job is too much for him, he can always quit.
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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2009, 10:41:02 AM »
Biden does have an exceptionally grotesque comb-over to compensate for his incompetence.
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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2009, 11:24:25 AM »
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Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been "overwhelmed" by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.

Hmmm...

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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2009, 11:54:52 PM »
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/03/uk-leader-cant.html?csp=34

The movie industry's digital protection schemes have turned President Obama's present for British Prime Minister Gordon Brown into little more than a set of coasters.

British newspapers earlier this month made hay out of the supposedly unequal exchange of gifts between the two leaders during Brown's visit to Washington. Brown gave an ornamental pen holder with an indirect tie to the Oval Office desk — both items were made from the timber of sister ships — and a first-edition set of a seven-volume biography about Winston Churchill.

Obama responded with a DVD set featuring 25 classic American movies. "About as exciting as a pair of socks," declared The Daily Mail.

Now it turns out Brown can't play the discs because of region-specific limitations, The Daily Telegraph reports.

DVD players are coded to limit themselves to material meant for specific geographic areas. The United States and Canada are Region 1. Western and Central Europe are Region 2.

Players sold in one region aren't supposed to play discs sold in another. Had the same sort of protection applied to Brown's gift, Obama would need a special key sold only in Europe to open the Churchill books.

People willing to experiment with hacks can go online to find relatively easy ways around region-coding prohibitions on discs. But a spokesman for the prime minister referred a Telegraph writer to the White House for "technical assistance."

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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2009, 10:25:15 AM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/5011941/Gordon-Brown-is-frustrated-by-Psycho-in-No-10.html

While not exactly a film buff, Gordon Brown was touched when Barack Obama gave him a set of 25 classic American movies – including Psycho, starring Anthony Perkins on his recent visit to Washington.
 

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Last Updated: 4:31PM GMT 18 Mar 2009

Alas, when the PM settled down to begin watching them the other night, he found there was a problem.

The films only worked in DVD players made in North America and the words "wrong region" came up on his screen. Although he mournfully had to put the popcorn away, he is unlikely to jeopardise the special relationship – or "special partnership", as we are now supposed to call it – by registering a complaint.

A Downing Street spokesman said he was "confident" that any gift Obama gave Brown would have been "well thought through," but referred me to the White House for assistance on the "technical aspects".

A White House spokesman sniggered when I put the story to him and he was still looking into the matter when my deadline came last night.

By the way, when Obama's unlikely gift was disclosed, a reader emailed me to ask if Clueless was among the films. Funnily enough, it was not.

Brown, on the other hand, presented a rather more thoughtful gift to the American President in the form of a penholder carved from the timbers of an anti-slavery ship. The sister ship, in fact, of the one that was broken up and turned into the desk in the Oval Office.



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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2009, 10:34:18 AM »
You elect a novice, this is what you get.  It is the voters fault and Obama had no idea of what being the president really is.  The Republicans are at fault too with their choice of McCain.  You want a pro, hire a pro.  I just hate to see the country suffer more.
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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2009, 11:37:53 AM »
Ironically, people would have put Bush through the wringer for the encoding error as it being "a dumb hick" mistake. Obama is the "cool, blackberry using, technologically hip guy". Of course it's the staff, not the President that does the grunt work, but this is supposed to be a wired staff as well.
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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2009, 12:30:06 PM »
looks like this would be a good time to start the push to get rid of the dmca and make region coding illegal =D

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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2009, 08:03:40 PM »
The problem here is that Obama is right... he should not suck up to Brown, because he will either lose the next election, or be kicked out beforehand. 
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Re: Barak vs the UK: Special Snub Edition
« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2009, 04:24:23 PM »
Aside from the idiocy of buying the man dvd's that won't play on his home turf, isn't Brown almost completely blind as well?