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Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« on: March 11, 2009, 03:09:29 PM »
I'm starting to think about refinancing, so I was wondering of anyone here was dialed-in and could tell me what to expect in terms of rates and points (if possible) on a 30-year fixed.

Any other thoughts welcome.

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 03:21:43 PM »
What amount?

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 03:22:39 PM »
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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 03:23:42 PM »
I'd think your location and credit score would be useful info as well.
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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 03:27:25 PM »
There is little to "standardize" in terms of jumbos so they are investor-specific.  First thing I'd do is call a couple of local title companies and ask their closing officer who seems to be the best at processing and handling jumbos.  If you don't have that option, call three or four local mortgage companies and have them do a GFE for you.

Also, if you are a member of a credit union, call them.  Their rates for jumbos are usually better than mainline investors working through mortgage brokers.

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 06:18:44 PM »
There is little to "standardize" in terms of jumbos so they are investor-specific.  First thing I'd do is call a couple of local title companies and ask their closing officer who seems to be the best at processing and handling jumbos.  If you don't have that option, call three or four local mortgage companies and have them do a GFE for you.

Also, if you are a member of a credit union, call them.  Their rates for jumbos are usually better than mainline investors working through mortgage brokers.

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What's your value?  Loan-to-value is a big factor now for points.

What Brad said, get multiple GFE's and let them know you are doing so (it's courteous).  Don't, however, get one GFE and then shop it, that isn't fair to the first guy as he will inevitably be underbid. 

Credit scores rule the roost anymore, expect them to say you have to get it pulled for them to give you a real answer.  If you can coordinate it, have them all pull your credit the same day.  Any number of pulls done on the same day count as a single pull.  You might apply during the week at several places (assuming they don't charge to take an app) but have them all wait to pull until, say, that Friday.

Credit Unions are usually about as wide open as banks anymore, for instance, all a non-member had to do to get a loan through the CU mortgage company I worked for was get a basic account and the restrictions to do so were minimal.
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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 06:43:59 PM »
Shop around a lot; we did and found some great variance in rates. The Lending Tree and Ditech were the worst; we got less than six quotes between the two, and the rates and terms were awful. I even called them about their "thousands of lenders" and they said that was the best they could do even with perfect credit. Since 1996, we refinanced three times ($79,000 was the original amount) and got better deals each time. Our last refinance was in 2003 and we got 4.75% with no fees or points. It didn't ever cost us a fee or points to refinance. We overpaid a lot towards our house and will have it paid off in the early summer. Paying down the mortgage early and fast saved us a lot of money in interest over the years. Our house has dropped in value over the last few years from $225,000 to $200,000, but paying it off fast still means you aren't paying as much interest as you could have.

Our local Sunday paper has a business section that publishes rates. That's a good place to start. Credit Unions are a good bet as well. See what banks can do. Ask lots of questions, shop around, and don't feel pressure to sign right now.

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 07:03:27 PM »
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Just curious, but do you mean $525,000 or $5.25 million?
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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2009, 11:01:07 AM »
one "large" = 100,000

Thanks for all of the input. Mrs. Sawdust and I have plenty of equity in the house, no debt except for the mortgage and excellent credit scores so I expect to do OK.

So far, the best I've found is 5.5% and 0 points, or 5.0% and 1 point.

Thanks again,

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2009, 01:49:48 PM »
No, I owe less on my house than  what a new truck would cost me.....chris3

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2009, 03:58:10 PM »
one "large" = 100,000

Thanks for all of the input. Mrs. Sawdust and I have plenty of equity in the house, no debt except for the mortgage and excellent credit scores so I expect to do OK.

So far, the best I've found is 5.5% and 0 points, or 5.0% and 1 point.

Thanks again,

Sawdust



The Conventional Conforming rates, up here at least, are at about 5.0% with a 1% origination fee last time I checked so 5.5% on a Jumbo is a great rate.

Check the GFE for any junk fees but it sounds like you are right in there.
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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2009, 05:25:53 PM »
I'd think your location and credit score would be useful info as well.

We'll need your SSN and a couple of credit card numbers just to expedite the process.....
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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2009, 11:28:14 AM »
Updated for future searchers...

Just locked a 30 year fixed at 4.875% and 0.75 pts...

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2009, 11:50:08 AM »
That's 1.625% lower than the rate I got last year. Congrats.

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2009, 12:51:05 PM »
Updated for future searchers...

Just locked a 30 year fixed at 4.875% and 0.75 pts...

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They charged you three quarters of a point to get that rate?  Locally we're seeing that rate on 0+0 fixed products.

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2009, 01:52:04 PM »
They charged you three quarters of a point to get that rate?  Locally we're seeing that rate on 0+0 fixed products.

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Remember that now points can be required by Fannie/Freddie based on LTV and credit score.
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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2009, 02:01:15 PM »
They charged you three quarters of a point to get that rate?  Locally we're seeing that rate on 0+0 fixed products.

Brad

For jumbo loans?

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2009, 02:30:06 PM »
Oh, sorry.  Forgot it was a jumbo ... different critter.  Looks about right then.

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Re: Anybody dialed into the mortgage loan industry?
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2009, 03:04:53 PM »
Updated for future searchers...

Just locked a 30 year fixed at 4.875% and 0.75 pts...

Sawdust

That's about what I was quoted for a jumbo last week, though mine was for home purchase rather than refi.

Of course, since what I'll actually need (and what I TOLD him I needed), after sale of our current townhouse, is a CONFORMING loan, instead of a jumbo, I'm a little annoyed with the guy who quoted that for me.  'Sokay, though, Navy Federal quoted me 4.625%/1.5 points (1.0 origination plus 0.5 discount) and Countrywide quoted 4.375%/0.5 points, both on a 30-year fixed conforming loan, so I probably won't be going with iFreedom Direct, anyways.

I agree with the other posters, sounds like you're doing okay there.