Britain.... well, I wasn't going to go there anyway.

[Iain]

changed mind

[Perd Hapley]

But like the guy in Crank High Voltage he will just grow stronger through the U.K.'s governmental lightning bolts.

Yeah, like I said, it makes him more of a legend in his own mind.  And, sadly, in the minds of others. 

[mordechaianiliewicz]

Ah.... my first post.

Well, I consider the study of the West's collapse through self doubt, and Europe's descent into darkness a specialty of mine. Look, here's the deal. I'm not making the case the US is that much better off than the UK or the Netherlands, in terms of free speech right now, but so far we haven't gone quite to the level Europe has in stifling free speech. (Though look at the Patriot Act and the MIAC report.... it's clear our politicos have designs on us)

Here is the thing: Europe literally has suppressed the speech of those on the political right by American standards. Wilders probably could be a Republican in the US Congress (oddly enough, probably just a moderate one) but, he is for lowering the ammount of social welfare in the Netherlands, lowering taxes, making it easier to start a business, closing the borders, and encouraging Muslims to leave. He looks at his nation's culture and heritage as something worth preserving, and is afraid of those who want to replace it. He also is wary of big government. He generally is skeptical of international orgs, and believes Western culture is superior to Islamic culture.

Sounds like a USA Republican to me. Problem is, in Europe, they don't want any of those philosophies or opinions I just mentioned to take root. I look at that, and to me, Britain's action has little to do with preventing violence and much to do with stiffling a political viewpoint.... I wonder how long until that MP, Daniel Hannon is prosecuted for being Eurosceptic, conservative, etc. He caused a huge uproar with calls to be stripped of his status for criticizing England's health service.

The ultimate result of Europe's actions is the following. Europe has no right wing really. And, American left-wingers are attempting to stifle the right in the USA using the force of law, and have fooled themselves into believing it's not a violation of the 1st Amendment.

[Perd Hapley]

It looks like Britain is retracting the policy.  And he's still whining about it. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200636/Alan-Johnson-ditches-Jacqui-Smiths-wanted-list-blunder.html

[doczinn]

Naked, feverish and higher than a kite on codeine aspirin, I called the Bauer campaign and volunteered. My plan? Get close enough to Bauer to give him the flu, which, if I am successful, will lay him flat just before the New Hampshire primary. I would go to Bauer's campaign office and cough on everything--phones and pens, staplers and staffers. I even hatched a plan to infect the candidate himself. I would keep the pen in my mouth until Bauer dropped by his offices to rally the troops. And when he did, I would approach him and ask for his autograph, handing him the pen from my flu-virus-incubating mouth.
...
I went from doorknob to doorknob. They were filthy, no doubt, but there wasn't time to find a rag to spit on. My immune system wasn't all it should be--I was in the grip of the worst flu I had ever had--but I was on a mission. If for some reason I didn't manage to get a pen from my mouth to Gary's hands, I wanted to seed his office with germs, get as many of his people sick as I could, and hopefully one of them would infect the candidate.

So, as much as it pains me to confirm a hateful stereotype of gay men--we will put anything in our mouths--I started licking doorknobs. The front door, office doors, even a bathroom door. When that was done, I started in on the staplers, phones and computer keyboards. Then I stood in the kitchen and licked the rims of all the clean coffee cups drying in the rack.

And this man was not charged with a crime?

[longeyes]

Sounds like a USA Republican to me. Problem is, in Europe, they don't want any of those philosophies or opinions I just mentioned to take root. I look at that, and to me, Britain's action has little to do with preventing violence and much to do with stiffling a political viewpoint.... I wonder how long until that MP, Daniel Hannon is prosecuted for being Eurosceptic, conservative, etc. He caused a huge uproar with calls to be stripped of his status for criticizing England's health service.

From what I read the average Jacques and Gillian in Europe isn't all that "left," it's the Eurocratic class that sits atop the people like a flatulent elephant.

[roo_ster]

And this man was not charged with a crime?

He is a Gay Man^TM, and therefore can get away with all sorts of crimes and hijinks that a straight man can not. 

[MagnumDweeb]

We in America just have to accept that nearly all of Europe is lost. We were fortunate to get out from the influence of Europe and idiotically got back into it by backing the English and French in WWI, had we just stayed out of it there wouldn't have been the rise of the Nazis or epic rise of the Soviets to being a world power. We in America must accept that our time dealing with Europe must come to an end. Oh sure we can still carry on business but to understand or attempt to understand European culture should come to an end. And being to welcome Western Europe as an Islamic Caliphate and call it a day. Yes we have masses of culturally and mentally diseased socialist traitors in our country masquerading as Americans but a collapse of our nation is coming and we should rather spend our time preparing for the day when we have spent storing food and ammo for the coming cleansing by nature, to look upon the marauding hordes of socialist scum bent on raping and murdering(think Katrina) and know they are not worth preserving, protecting, feeding, or helping in any fashion whatsoever. So as to allow nature to take its course allowing them to starve themselves with their unAmerican values so we might rise above their worthless ashes and rebuild the U.S. anew and properly set it on the course our founding fathers intended. We have allowed, nay encouraged, the weak and useless to breed and breed prolifically they have filling our prisions, draining our coffers through welfare, and now rather than waste giving money to the salvation army or red cross, better are we to arm ourselves and prepare for the day we have to feed ourselves.----Now wouldn't it be rather scary if I thought like this(I don't, I assure you). I'm finding it harder and harder not to with everything going on around the world. And with what is happening in my country, the U.S..

We'll either hit and wall and it will all fall apart, or we won't. Lets stay out of Europe's business, well lets help the Swiss remain free from the idiotic outset of their French populace bent on ruining the great country. And lets not let Europes opinion affect us, they'll all be Muslim soon enough.