Sandford Is Done

[Animal Mother]

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford admits to extramarital affair
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-sanford-argentina25-2009jun25,0,6844581.story

Well, when I first heard the excuse I thought it seemed like it was way to fishy of a story to just be a camping trip.  Its a shame, as Sanford had some good ideas.
 
It takes a special kind of idiot to suddenly travel to another country for an affair when you are a public figure on the DNC's hit list.

[MicroBalrog]

I fail to see why this should matter.

[Jamisjockey]

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford admits to extramarital affair
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-sanford-argentina25-2009jun25,0,6844581.story

Well, when I first heard the excuse I thought it seemed like it was way to fishy of a story to just be a camping trip.  Its a shame, as Sanford had some good ideas.
 
It takes a special kind of idiot to travel to another country for an affair when you are a public figure on the DNC's hit list.

Hell the RNC was after him when he tried to refuse stimulus money...seems they don't like being made to look like fools.

[wquay]

And, the implosion of the Republican Party continues. What a moron.

[GigaBuist]

I fail to see why this should matter.

If you can't be trusted to do what's best for your family then we're not going to trust 'em in public office.

[MicroBalrog]

If you cant' be expected to do what's best for your family then we're not going to trust 'em in public office.

Enjoy four more years of Obama, then. After all, he's loyal to Michelle.

[makattak]

>.<

That's a shame, I was thinking he might be a good choice given his recent stance against the stimulus money.

It's amazing how utterly stupid some people can be.

I'm quite glad he did this now and killed his chances already rather than getting conservatives behind him and then having this come out in the primary, leaving us with another "Democrat-lite" candidate.

Looks like I'm back to "Palin in '12!"

[makattak]

Enjoy four more years of Obama, then. After all, he's loyal to Michelle.

Again you are making a false correlation.

Doing what's right for his family does not necessarily mean he will do what is right for the country.

However, someone who will not keep his vows and do what is right for his family has indicated he has a character flaw that may cause him to also do something wrong for the country.

Fidelity =/= competence, however fidelity IS an important trait.

[mtnbkr]

Mak, you're not being random sex positive.

Chris

[HankB]

There's a reason that the GOP has been called The Stupid Party. 

Running off to Argentina(!) for an affair with a local woman and thinking you wouldn't be caught strongly suggests to me a lack of judgement and even a bit of instability - the sort of person you really wouldn't want in the Oval Office any more than you'd want someone who smoked dope and snorted coke when they were younger and got stressed out. (Uh . . .wait a minute . . .    )

Oh, well, if he were a Democrat, we'd probably find out he'd had an affair with a gaucho. Then the behavior would be tolerated, and perhaps even applauded.  :rolleyes:

[MicroBalrog]

However, someone who will not keep his vows and do what is right for his family has indicated he has a character flaw that may cause him to also do something wrong for the country.

No doubt a man loses points points for marital infidelity.

But there are so much more things to lose points for. Corruption. The wrong stands on the right issues.

If Stanford previously scored, say, 70 out of a hundred, he scores 65 now.

If you're going to vote for a man who's wrong on the issues over a man who's right on the issues over an event like this, you should not wonder why the socialists keep winning.

[makattak]

No doubt a man loses points points for marital infidelity.

But there are so much more things to lose points for. Corruption. The wrong stands on the right issues.

If Stanford previously scored, say, 70 out of a hundred, he scores 65 now.

If you're going to vote for a man who's wrong on the issues over a man who's right on the issues over an event like this, you should not wonder why the socialists keep winning.

<eyebrow raise>

If I was given the decision between Gov. Sandford and Pres. Obama right now, Mr. Sandford would get my vote without a second thought.

However, if I were given a choice between, for example, Gov. Sandford and Gov. Palin, he loses. Before, I was unsure.

As I said, fidelity is not the ONLY quality, but it is an important one.

[MicroBalrog]

Ah. I thought you were one of the 'stick a fork in him' types. My apology.

[lupinus]

This is seriously damaging for someone who has been, in most all respects, a pretty good governor.  Infidelity says a lot about his character, disappearing for a few days without letting anyone know says a lot about job performance.

However, doing the right thing and coming clean also says a lot about ones character.  And he came clean on this fairly quickly and without having to be caught red handed.  Sure, he was caught red handed not doing his job.  I don't recall any talk prior to his admission about another woman though, and that's much more damaging.  He could have almost certainly coasted through with a cover story of needing time off and 'oops' failure to communicate that time off accordingly.

No one's perfect, we all make major fubars.  I don't expect my elected officials to be perfect either.  Given he did the right thing in coming clean and seeking forgiveness I wont be in any lines to lynch him.  With enough good work to move on and rebuild trust and confidence, I would vote for him in an election if he proved to be the best candidate in the running.

[roo_ster]

Don't cry for him, Argentina.

MB:

There are nearly 300 million folks in the USA.  

We can find a few that are both:
a. Good on the issues
and
b. Faithful to their oaths

Really, how much is a policritter's oath to uphold the COTUS worth if he won't uphold his oath to his wife & before God?

Also, divorce is no longer a disqualifier.  If he wanted out of his marriage, he could get out and be a swingin' bachelor governor.

I am more sympathetic to the Nevada senator than Sanford, as the Nevada senator was separated from his wife & working toward divorce.

Anyways, I'll buy into mak's position as to his "done-ness."

[Jamisjockey]

No doubt a man loses points points for marital infidelity.

But there are so much more things to lose points for. Corruption. The wrong stands on the right issues.

If Stanford previously scored, say, 70 out of a hundred, he scores 65 now.

If you're going to vote for a man who's wrong on the issues over a man who's right on the issues over an event like this, you should not wonder why the socialists keep winning.

No, a politician who has something to hide is susceptible to bribes and other forms of corruption.  How do you trust a politician who is caught in a real lie?

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

I want to see a picture of the Argentine before I pass judgment.
Until then, mood music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KoppS8TIjc

[longeyes]

Thanks, Gov, for making the GOP look foolish again.

These are NOT SERIOUS MEN, and God knows we live in serious, perilous times.  We're on the verge of disastrous health care, energy, union, and immigration "reforms" which threaten to sink this nation, and men who might do something about what's coming are living out adolescent romantic fantasies.  We need some stern Romans.  Where are they?

Neil Postman said it all 25 years ago in Amusing Ourselves to Death, a must read.

[MicroBalrog]

No, a politician who has something to hide is susceptible to bribes and other forms of corruption.  How do you trust a politician who is caught in a real lie?

...you mean, you can trust politicians?

[lupinus]

No, a politician who has something to hide is susceptible to bribes and other forms of corruption.  How do you trust a politician who is caught in a real lie?

Everyone screws up and/or has skeletons in the closet.  Personally, I'd rather mine have the balls to promptly admit they screwed up.

No one was chanting about another woman, he could have easily gotten off with a cover story that was much less damaging to his future.  Disappearing would have been damaging sure, but not nearly so as disappearing with another woman.

[roo_ster]

...he could have easily gotten off with a cover story that was much less damaging to his future. 

[tinfoil_haberdashery]Maybe admitting to an affair with another woman is the "less damaging cover story." [/tinfoil_haberdashery]

[lupinus]

[tinfoil_haberdashery]Maybe admitting to an affair with another woman is the "less damaging cover story." [/tinfoil_haberdashery]

 

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Wow.  Doesn't this guy know he's a politician?  He's supposed to lie and try to cover up his mistakes, not admit to them honestly. 

Ya know, I think I'd still vote for him.  How refreshing would it be to have a politician who can admit to his mistakes, especially the really big ones, rather than trying to lie and weasel out from them?  Everyone screws up now and again, and everyone has their flaws.  It takes a special sort of person to own up to his failures and shortcomings.

Of course, his political career probably is over now.

[lupinus]

Which is sad, hes one of the few that had the balls to refuse bail out money he didn't agree with.  All in all, he is/was a good government official.  Hopefully he has enough time and does a good enough job that he can get past this.  It'll be interesting to see the approval ratings (for what they are worth anyway) over the next few days.

[Nitrogen]

He shouldn't have to deal with any of this crap, I don't care who he's screwing.
I said the same thing about Clinton; He'll live and die by his ideas.

If he was absolutely faithful to his wife and kids, but ran the state into teh ground, I think he should be ditched.

If he's a crappy dad, but a great governor, then keep him.  Simple in my eyes.