MORE on Obama's Birth Certificate; Case to be Heard on Merits

[Thor]

Perhaps the answers WILL eventually come out, but for some reason, I'm not so optimistic, as Obama's handlers have been busy scrubbing the web of any personal documents.

Grapevine

Monday, July 13, 2009
Obama eligibility case will be heard on merits!!
GREAT NEWS ALERT!!

Obama eligibility case will be heard on merits !!
Please distribute everywhere.

Just got off the phone with Orly Taitz, the attorney in Keyes v. Obama.

At the hearing today at the Federal Court building in Santa Ana, Judge Carter said the following:
1. There will be a trial.
2. It will be heard on the merits.
3. Nothing will be dismissed on proceedural issues.
4. The trial will be expeditious, and the judge pledged to give case priority.
5. Being a former Marine he realizes the importance of having a Constitutionally qualified POTUS/CINC.
6. Judge stated that if Obama isn't Constitutionally qualifed he needs to leave the White House.

The DOJ will be involved with the case also.... I wasn't clear if they would be trying to get to the truth or they would just be blindly representing Obama.

Orly will be adding members of the military from California as plaintiffs also.This is from what my interpretation of our conversation.Orly, asked me to disseminate this information out for her, she will be doing a posting later after she gets some sleep.

Please say a prayer of protection for Orly, her family, and Judge Carter. Please also pray that the truth will come to light regarding Obama and justice will be done.
Dr Orly Taitz, Esq site here!

Source

[AZRedhawk44]

IBTL.   

I can hope for the ugly chunks to get stirred up from the bottom... to be briefly visible...

But the best possible outcome would be Biden as President, and Nancy Pelosi as Veep.  Sigh.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

till i followed the link and got a major who filed a tro to avoid going to Afghanistan i had hope

[Jamisjockey]

This thread isn't going to go anywhere good.  
And, unless there is some revelation about him being a Muslim Terrorist Sleeper Agent, I just don't see the protagonists in this case ever being satisfied.

I'll make you guys a deal.  If its run by a major news source as any kind of story, feel free to post and discuss, without hysterics.  
For now, it gets the axe.

[Jamisjockey]

At least one MSM outlet has picked it up.  I'm going to unlock it, please keep it civil. 

[taurusowner]

I think it will be legally determined that Obama is Constitutionally allowed to be President.  Whether he really is or not, I can't say.  But I think that since he has been President for half a year now, it would be a fiasco of monumental proportions to boot him out.  The case will be heard, he will be found legal, if only to shut up the tin foil wearers.

[roo_ster]

Man, wouldn't a President Biden be a hoot.

Biden is what the MSM portrayed Quayle to be.

[Perd Hapley]

I think that since he has been President for half a year now, it would be a fiasco of monumental proportions to boot him out. 

President Obama: fiasco of monumental proportions (fomp)

Deposing President Obama:  fomp

President Biden:  fomp


We are so humped.

[AZRedhawk44]

President Obama: fiasco of monumental proportions (fomp)

Deposing President Obama:  fomp

President Biden:  fomp


We are so humped.

Yeah, we're not likely to get much policy change even if Obama were found to actually be Barry Soetero or whatever, and traveled on an Indonesian passport.  Biden would pick up the exact same policies dictated from the oneworlders, and if not him then Pelosi.

Come to think of it... Biden would have to be complicit if there were a cover up of this magnitude.  He'd be stalked by accusations of collusion (or something else appropriate) his entire 1/2 term, and we would be down to Pelosi pretty quick.

Then imagine the GOP response... more authoritarian autocrat pinheads, more incumbent protectionism, more centralization of power.

Citizen or not, it doesn't really matter.  Neither party cares so much about the country as its power base.  We're humped any way you slice it.

I'm hoping for a non-citizen ruling just to hump over the Democrats, then maybe a similar scale GOP scandal to follow so that both parties eat feces and choke on a tapeworm.

[lone_gunman]

The black people will tear up Los Angeles, Houston, Atlanta, and Chicago if Obama is deposed.

Its just not worth it.

[MicroBalrog]

President Obama: fiasco of monumental proportions (fomp)

Deposing President Obama:  fomp

President Biden:  fomp


We are so humped.

Yes, but come one:

Who's more likely to be re-elected in 2012? President Obama or President Biden?

[sanglant]

The black people will tear up Los Angeles, Houston, Atlanta, and Chicago if Obama is deposed.

Its just not worth it.

i'm not so sure about that, remember how white people felt when carter was in

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

The black people will tear up Los Angeles, Houston, Atlanta, and Chicago if Obama is deposed.

And the downside is?   

I have a suspicion that this birth certificate thing is nothing but wishful thinking/sour grapes... and everybody involved in pushing it is going to get permanently branded conspiracy nutjobs for doing so.

[seeker_two]

The black people   dependent, welfare-loving, Dem-voting, Katrina-dispersed, uneducated, "gimmie-gimmie-NOW" crowd will tear up Los Angeles, Houston, Atlanta, and Chicago if Obama is deposed.

Fixed for accuracy.....and to show that not much would change....since they're doing that NOW.... 

[brimic]

The more massive the train wreck, the less likely we'll see the Democratic machine in power for a very long time.

The Lefties play dirty politicals and thrive on smear campaigns, its about time the right starts fighting back.

[BMacklem]

Last time I checked, this is OUR country.
Not Kenyas.
If it should turn out to be completely true, then the useless jerk should be impeached and recalled right out of office in shame and shackles.
He would have pulled the wool over the eyes of the American public and they fell right for it, maybe they'd wake up a little and realise that this is their country too.
Let them riot and let them get put into prison for any mayhem they bring on themselves.

I personally can't say I've seen any proof that Obama is guilty, but an innocent man does not spend a million dollars to seal his birth records, when simply giving them up for the sake of transparency would settle the issue once and for all.

[Jamisjockey]

Last time I checked, this is OUR country.
Not Kenyas.
If it should turn out to be completely true, then the useless jerk should be impeached and recalled right out of office in shame and shackles.
He would have pulled the wool over the eyes of the American public and they fell right for it, maybe they'd wake up a little and realise that this is their country too.
Let them riot and let them get put into prison for any mayhem they bring on themselves.

I personally can't say I've seen any proof that Obama is guilty, but an innocent man does not spend a million dollars to seal his birth records, when simply giving them up for the sake of transparency would settle the issue once and for all.

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Cite?  Proof?

[HankB]

But the best possible outcome would be Biden as President, and Nancy Pelosi as Veep.  Sigh.

It's not immediately clear that Biden would become VP - the Congress would probably work its magic and "elect" him in an emergency session, but the VP's job is to replace the President. But if BHO is ruled ineligible, then he never WAS the president after all . . . with all the implications that brings along.

Can a VP replace a POTUS who actually never was POTUS?

As for VP, Nancy Pelosi, as Speaker of the House, is 3rd in line of succession for POTUS, but I'm not aware of any formalized line of succession for VP. (Remember when Agnew left office, Ford was appointed - the office didn't go to the Speaker.) I remember reading that a law was passed formalizing the line of succession for POTUS, but I just don't know if the VP's job was included.

But let's not get our hopes up too much . . . I think the most likely scenario - assuming things aren't ultimately dismissed, regardless of the news stories - is that the genuine, long-form birth certificate will be produced, with the name of the hospitial and attending physician, and there will be something embarassing to BHO on it. (Maybe "Father" is listed as "Unknown?")

[Balog]

I'm with Hank. Something embarassing (most likely having to do with his father) is on the long form, and he will sadly still be TOTUS. But still, one can dream... 

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Can a VP replace a POTUS who actually never was POTUS?

If Obama is ruled ineligible to run for POTUS, wouldn't that mean that Biden was never elected veep and therefore couldn't succeed Obama? 

[Clem]

IBTL.   

I can hope for the ugly chunks to get stirred up from the bottom... to be briefly visible...

But the best possible outcome would be Biden as President, and Nancy Pelosi as Veep.  Sigh.

Wrong answer. If Obama were forced out, Biden would be President. He would get to pick a VP replacement, who would have to be confirmed by both houses of Congress. (Article 25 of the US Constitution, ratified 10 Feb 1967.)

[sanglant]

it would be entertaining if he isn't black 

[AZRedhawk44]

But let's not get our hopes up too much . . . I think the most likely scenario - assuming things aren't ultimately dismissed, regardless of the news stories - is that the genuine, long-form birth certificate will be produced, with the name of the hospitial and attending physician, and there will be something embarassing to BHO on it. (Maybe "Father" is listed as "Unknown?")

If something is different between the COLB and the long form certificate... then that means he forged the COLB.  His father is listed on the COLB.

Maybe he was born with a prehensile tail, or seven toes on one foot, or something else odd, and that's showing on the long form?   

[restorer]

Article II of the Constitution allowed for successors to be selected from members of Congress from amongst its members. It wasn't until the 25th Amendment was ratified that we had a specific order of succession. I wish we would repeal the 25th so we wouldn't be saddled with the likes of Biden, Pelosi and Reid. They all scare me.

[MechAg94]

I agree with the notion that he will be declared legal to shut people up.  Honestly, I am more interested in his college transcripts so we can see why his grades were not made public.