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AZRedhawk44

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Sigh... McCain...
« on: August 25, 2009, 03:49:54 PM »
I don't have any print references yet, but I'm hearing on our local talk radio that McCain is talking about reaching across the aisle to "my friends <slobber noise>" to get something passed, but that a public option shouldn't be in the bill.  He was at a Town Hall in Sun City on the west side of Phoenix today.

He wants to pass a bipartisan health care reform bill.

Bipartisan always means compromise... but as far as I can tell the GOP grass roots movement is adamant that they don't trust this congress to:
1.  Respect their private health care decisions;
2.  Quit spending the nation down China's toilet;
3.  Abstain from additional power grabs.

How can anything bipartisan headed up by McCain and his "friends <slobber noise>" respect any of those goals?  Especially when his gang of six are centrists that don't mind "moderately" putting the country in the poor house and infringing on our rights "moderately?"
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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 03:52:02 PM »
I hope he passes something "bipartisan" and then the Democrats use reconciliation to get everything in the House bill through congress.

These morons think they can play nice. How is it they can realize you don't compromise with terrorists in the middle east, but can't understand it in congress?
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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 04:30:23 PM »
Because McCain himself is not actually opposed to government involvement in health care. That's why it's called neoconservatism. It acquiesces to the welfare state.
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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 04:41:50 PM »
JUST what you'd expect from a RINO . . . I'm just mildly surprised it took him this long to show his true colors on this issue, the way he has on so many others.
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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 08:50:59 PM »
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How is it they can realize you don't compromise with terrorists in the middle east, but can't understand it in congress?

You must have missed the video footage of the resident of the White House bowing to the kind of Saudi Arabia.
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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 12:30:43 AM »
JUST what you'd expect from a RINO . . . I'm just mildly surprised it took him this long to show his true colors on this issue, the was he has on so many others.

Um, he did that during the "campaign".  Remember Obama bashing McCain's health-care-reform idea because it allowed benefits to be taxed?

Nah, nobody else does either :p

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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 01:28:14 AM »


McCain might've been the Republican Party's biggest mistake this century.

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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 02:27:25 AM »
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McCain might've been the Republican Party's biggest mistake this century.

The "Maverick" was a symptom, not the underlying problem.  The problem is that the Republican Party is dead, and people are mistaking the twitching for signs of vitality.  If the Dems weren't self-consuming, the entire country would be truly hosed (and no, the hosing we have now is not the worst possible).
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 06:41:59 AM »
If McCain wants to propose anything for "health care reform", he should suggest that the "death panels" start reviewing all politicians over age 30....

The "Maverick" was a symptom, not the underlying problem. 

Agreed....he is a symptom of the disease that killed off the GOP. I hope that the third parties get their act together soon and step up to the political plate....we need a real option....
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 01:01:01 PM »
Before we get to viable third, fourth parties, etc., we are going to have to pass through a Valley of Chaos.  People will have to see upclose and personal what Tyranny really looks like in operation and what it means for their daily lives and their future.  We're not there yet, but we're getting there, and if we pass health care "reform," cap & trade, an amnesty, a suppression of free political speech, and disarmament, we will have learned The Lesson.  What happens then is anyone's guess.

The GOP has been irrelevant for some time now.  These are prosperous men who just want to get along and hang on to their perquisites and power.
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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 05:39:23 PM »
Um, he did that during the "campaign".  Remember Obama bashing McCain's health-care-reform idea because it allowed benefits to be taxed?

Nah, nobody else does either :p

McCain might've been the Republican Party's biggest mistake this century.

Oh, I remember.  He also took time off from the election to vote for the first Stimulus bill.  Probably part of why he lost.
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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2009, 05:07:36 PM »
Why are you surprised?  McCain's schtick is to provide a bipartisan fig leaf to anything of value to statists.  McCain and Obama have a common Daddy Warbucks---George Soros.  And Soros' hot button is socialized medicine.
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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2009, 12:04:14 PM »
Oh, I remember.  He also took time off from the election to vote for the first Stimulus bill.  Probably part of why he lost.

They tried to blame that on Palin, but I think that is exactly why he lost.  He was actually staying fairly close to Obama up to that point.  Had he actually had a plan rather than just jumping on board the "throw money at it" plan, he might have actually showed he was different.  As it happens, more of the same was not what people were looking for. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2009, 01:58:35 PM »
He was actually staying fairly close to Obama up to that point. 


Actually, Palin was staying close to Obama then....McCain couldn't have mustered up enough support to buy him a ticket back to Hanoi at that point....  ;/
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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2009, 07:29:36 PM »
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He was actually staying fairly close to Obama up to that point. 


He was leading him in the Rassmussen polls.

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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2009, 09:28:10 PM »
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They tried to blame that on Palin, but I think that is exactly why he lost.  He was actually staying fairly close to Obama up to that point.  Had he actually had a plan rather than just jumping on board the "throw money at it" plan, he might have actually showed he was different.  As it happens, more of the same was not what people were looking for.
Agreed. And when stimulus bill 2 came in, chock full of the earmarks he's always complaining about, it was a golden opportunity to say "I'm having none of this."

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Re: Sigh... McCain...
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2009, 04:30:09 PM »
Well, no one can say he doesn't have a genius for collaboration.
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