Can you say "Birth Control??"

[MillCreek]

The vagina and uterus are basically large muscular organs, meaning if the muscles are kept well toned they will retain their size properly. There are exercises for this.

There are no exercises for the uterus and vagina, per se.  You might be thinking of a Kegel for the pelvic floor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegel_exercise

[RaspberrySurprise]

There are no exercises for the uterus and vagina, per se.  You might be thinking of a Kegel for the pelvic floor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegel_exercise

Yes, you're correct, I was a tad off there.

[KD5NRH]

There are no exercises for the uterus and vagina, per se.  You might be thinking of a Kegel for the pelvic floor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegel_exercise

Do they make videos with awful music for these?

Apparently, my wife is convinced that exercise isn't useful unless accompanied by Glenn Frey, <insert random French rap group here> or worse.

[Perd Hapley]

Every time I see them I want to say "Hey lady, it's a uterus, not a clown car."

I guess if they were using fertility treatments, I could see where you're coming from. 

If not, then they're just letting nature take its course, right?  How would that be any kind of mistreatment of the uterus?  Isn't that just treating the uterus like a uterus? 

Or are they using fertility drugs?  Not that such drugs are necessarily wrong, either. 

[Jamisjockey]

I guess if they were using fertility treatments, I could see where you're coming from. 

If not, then they're just letting nature take its course, right?  How would that be any kind of mistreatment of the uterus?  Isn't that just treating the uterus like a uterus? 

Or are they using fertility drugs?  Not that such drugs are necessarily wrong, either. 

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[Marnoot]

I've known several people that came from Very Large (IE 10+ kids) families. Each one has been well adjusted and just as "normal" as anyone else. One of my co-workers had 15 siblings growing up. As mentioned, in these large families generally the older kids help care for the younger ones and none of the children are starved for attention.

I see no problem with very large families. And frankly, unless you're interested in Uterus Control / government-mandated family-sizes, it's none of anyone else's business how many children a couple have, so long as they can afford to care for them, and there is no neglect/abuse/etc.

[taurusowner]

If I had been shackled with the childcare of my parents other kids when I was in my mid-late teens, I would have been far from enthused.  Another poster mentioned it and I agree.  The old children are not parents.  They did not choose to be parents. And I can't speak for them, but for me, I would have been VERY opposed to the idea of having to act as a parent in my teens just because my parents wanted to keep having kids but couldn't do the job themselves.

[Perd Hapley]

More provincialism from the two-to-three kids is normal culture, that can't see outside of their own experience. 

Where is it written that older siblings should never be expected to care for younger?  I favor individualism as much as any Lockean American Tea Party extremist, but let's not go crazy.  Being fifteen or eighteen does not grant an automatic right to live in your own world and have no responsibilities.   

[MicroBalrog]

  Being fifteen or eighteen does not grant an automatic right to live in your own world and have no responsibilities.   

Why does it seem to me that the word "responsibility" has been stretched a lot lately?

[Gewehr98]

I believe large families were a throwback to days when infant mortality was high, and the cheap labor of multiple children was more of a blessing than bane.  

My maternal grandfather came from a litter of 10.  That's a goodly amount of farmhands right there.

[Regolith]

2-3 IS normal, when you look at the history of humanity.  Large families were the result of the relatively recent agricultural revolution, where sedentary farmers were able to produce a lot of surplus food, but needed large amounts of labor to do it.  Prior to then, when most humans were hunter/gatherers, human families were typically fairly small as there wasn't enough food around to have a lot of extra children.  Large families are again starting to go by the wayside as a result of longer life expectancies and the decrease in labor needed to produce food.

[Viking]

If I had been shackled with the childcare of my parents other kids when I was in my mid-late teens, I would have been far from enthused.  Another poster mentioned it and I agree.  The old children are not parents.  They did not choose to be parents. And I can't speak for them, but for me, I would have been VERY opposed to the idea of having to act as a parent in my teens just because my parents wanted to keep having kids but couldn't do the job themselves.

Exactly. Call me odd or something, but I figure it's the job of the parents to, you know, actually be parents. Not the older siblings. Like you, I would've been less than amused about the idea of it. Wonder if any of the older kids will rebel and declare themselves childfree because of it?

[RaspberrySurprise]

Exactly. Call me odd or something, but I figure it's the job of the parents to, you know, actually be parents. Not the older siblings. Like you, I would've been less than amused about the idea of it. Wonder if any of the older kids will rebel and declare themselves childfree because of it?

They'd be going against their parents wishes and the religious beliefs they have been taught since birth...not likely. Though I say that would be interesting.

[Viking]

They'd be going against their parents wishes and the religious beliefs they have been taught since birth...not likely. Though I say that would be interesting.

Why not? Happens often that kids rebel against the religious, political or other social beliefs of their parents. I lurk on the childfree groups at Livejournal, and there's no lack of people there who just decided to go against "family tradition" so to speak of having a litter of kids, often because they had to be extra-parents for their younger siblings, which instilled what is sometimes pure hate of every human being under the age of 18. Just sayin'...

[Perd Hapley]

Oh, the oppression!  Wolverines!!

[Marnoot]

From what I gather from my conversations with previously referenced persons that grew up in large families, helping out with the other kids (emphasis on "helping out," the older kids don't take over the parenting) is just the way it is; that is, not a negative thing, but just how life was.

I've never heard any of them express contempt for the fact that they helped out, on the contrary most seemed to enjoy their family situation. I'm sure there are those who feel poorly about their situation, but I would guess that on average those that grow up in big families just don't have the attitudes Ragnar and Viking are imagining they'd have in similar situations due to the fact that that's what they were used to.

Of course there will be those that decide not to have children, etc., but children rebel against their parents' ways all the time regardless of the specifics of the family structure.

[MicroBalrog]

Oh, the oppression!  Wolverines!!

Remember, nobody is being oppressed.

There is no oppression.

By choosing to be born and live in Society you implicitly accept all of its regulations, requirements, registration and licensing rules, etc. etc. Society is Sacred.  Remember, Society can impose any kind of rule on you and - since you willingly disobeyed Society - she can impose any kind of punishment on you she wants. After all, you can't have freedom without responsibility.

Furthermore, parents - and parental figures - should be morally allowed to impose any kind of duties whatever on any children before the magical age of 18, to impose physical punishment (spanking, for example). Parental consent is to be required for any serious activity on behalf of the young people in question. Remember, perfect obedience to parents is one of the responsibilities of childhood, just as perfect obedience to Mother Society is one of the responsibilities of adulthood.

By choosing to rail against the Sacred Edicts of Mother Society or against the Holy Traditional Family, you are simply proving yourself Immature and Individualistic. Submit now, citizen, and life will be made much easier for you!

[Perd Hapley]

Wow, I had a little bit of satire all worked up, but MicroBalrog just blew it all away.  I can't match that kind of silliness.   

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

edited since i may have had my head up   till i find out one way or the other if those who quoted me could change their posts i think mb deserves that 

[BridgeRunner]

your railing against society and fealty to ones parents will gain cred immensely once you leave home  till then?  perhaps not so much

Agreed. 

[MicroBalrog]

your railing against society and fealty to ones parents will gain cred immensely once you leave home  till then?  perhaps not so much

1. I rail against neither.

2. Ad hominem.

[Gewehr98]

Guys, I think MB's post was tongue-in-cheek.  

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

in that case i apologise  wouldn't be the first time i missede something   shoot lower for me mb

[RoadKingLarry]

your railing against society and fealty to ones parents will gain cred immensely once you leave home  till then?  perhaps not so much

ZING!

That'll leave a mark.

[RaspberrySurprise]

I'm not sure he's being serious folks, though I wouldn't be surprised either. I've been surprised in the past.

There I think that sounds better.