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Re: A Garand in .458 Win Mag?!?!
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2013, 11:29:34 AM »
McCann told me the Garand action had been tested to pressure levels far in excess of what a Mauser could withstand.

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Re: A Garand in .458 Win Mag?!?!
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2013, 12:35:52 PM »
McCann told me the Garand action had been tested to pressure levels far in excess of what a Mauser could withstand.

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Re: A Garand in .458 Win Mag?!?!
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2013, 01:18:05 PM »
458 win mag is up to 53,000 c.u.p. so its not slouch for pressure.
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Re: A Garand in .458 Win Mag?!?!
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2013, 02:36:38 PM »
I always thought it would be interesting to see what a Garand style rifle would end up like if it was built for a smaller, shorter caliber.  I always pictured a small rifle in .223 that used an enbloc clip.  I figure you could make it almost smaller/lighter than a mini-14.  Something like 6.8SPC might be a better choice.  I figure I'll never see it unless the gun banners have their way and ban high cap mags. 

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Re: A Garand in .458 Win Mag?!?!
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2013, 03:20:49 PM »
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I always thought it would be interesting to see what a Garand style rifle would end up like if it was built for a smaller, shorter caliber.  I always pictured a small rifle in .223 that used an enbloc clip.  I figure you could make it almost smaller/lighter than a mini-14.  Something like 6.8SPC might be a better choice.  I figure I'll never see it unless the gun banners have their way and ban high cap mags. 

John Garand originally chambered the M1 in .276 pederson with a 10-round clip, the Army wanted none of it since they still had billions of .30 left over from WWI.
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Re: A Garand in .458 Win Mag?!?!
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2013, 03:42:10 PM »
John Garand originally chambered the M1 in .276 pederson with a 10-round clip, the Army wanted none of it since they still had billions of .30 left over from WWI.
Yeah, I've heard that.  That is sort of what gave me the idea.  Just trying to imagine how much shorter and lighter it could be with a smaller cartridge.  

Don't get me wrong, I have a few of them and they are nice rifles.  Maybe what I really would like to see is just something new designed around en bloc clips with modern materials and bullet design.  It is unlikely to happen as there is no real advantage and box magazines are more versitle. 
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