Unemployment tops 10%

[RocketMan]

It should feel weirder to live on welfare.

 

Unemployment ≠ Welfare

[Balog]

I've never drawn unemployment. Always had a moral objection to the state taking money from productive people and giving it to me just cause. Now that fed.gov is taking so much more of my money I find the idea of getting some of what I've paid back less objectionable. I'd prefer we had nothing of course, but when the thief offers you some of what's been stolen back... 

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Unemployment ≠ Welfare

There's a lot of effort expended to help people rationalize being on the government dole.  Unemployment is actually insurance, Social Security is actually a trust, and so forth.  None of this is true, of course.  In the end, you're living off of other people's money, money that was taken from them and given to you.  Renaming the program won't change that.  It may help you sleep at night, but only if you don't think very hard about what's happening.

Myself, I prefer to call a spade a spade.  Unemployment = welfare.  

[Viking]

I have never been unwillingly unemployed for more than a week, if I count cheesy temp jobs.

The first thing I would do when seeking new work would be to get a part-time temp job, just to be working, because it was good for my psyche.  Unwillingly not working drives me up a wall.

As such, I have yet to collect unemployment, though I bet some of hte temp jobs I worked provided less.

Trust me, since I know I'll be getting laid off, I'm looking like crazy. Only problem is that I don't have much (read: anything really) in the way of qualifications. Nothing that I have paper on atleast. I've found one or two jobs (nowhere near me though) in basic construction and rising scaffolding and similar that didn't require any qualifications besides eagerness to work hard. I know I can build scaffolding atleast, and I could probably hammer nails without hitting my thumb too much.

[RocketMan]

There's a lot of effort expended to help people rationalize being on the government dole.  Unemployment is actually insurance, Social Security is actually a trust, and so forth.  None of this is true, of course.  In the end, you're living off of other people's money, money that was taken from them and given to you.  Renaming the program won't change that.  It may help you sleep at night, but only if you don't think very hard about what's happening.

Myself, I prefer to call a spade a spade.  Unemployment = welfare.  

Let's see...Money taken from you in some fashion, put into a fund to be paid out at a later date should you become unemployed.  Yup, sounds like welfare...:rolleyes:

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

how is unemployment mone taken from you? isn't it paid by employers?

[RocketMan]

If your employer pays into the fund, then it is money taken indirectly from you inasmuch as that money might have gone to you in salary if it were not being paid into the fund.
If I am not mistaken, in some states there is an unemployment insurance deduction taken directly from an employee's pay check, much like any other tax.

[Monkeyleg]

Let's see...Money taken from you in some fashion, put into a fund to be paid out at a later date should you become unemployed.  Yup, sounds like welfare...

As an "employer," I've paid thousands of dollars into the unemployment compensation fund, although as the owner of the business I can never collect a dime. So, people who are getting unemployment are taking money from me.

Come on over and mow my lawn.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

If I am not mistaken, in some states there is an unemployment insurance deduction taken directly from an employee's pay check, much like any other tax.


i've heard that too but never seen it. ussually when i hear it its from someone who is collecting unemployment and is justifying it with "i paid into it for x number of years."

[RocketMan]

C&SD, I am currently employed, not on unemployment.  This particular stint of employment has lasted almost six years.  Hopefully that will continue.

If you pay into an unemployment insurance fund for 'x' number of years, should you not expect to reap some benefit from it should you become unemployed? What is the point of it all, otherwise?

Again, unemployment insurance does not equal welfare.  Different programs, different funding sources, wholly different intentions behind them.  This "any government payment is welfare" mentality is...dumb.

[Gewehr98]

There's a lot of effort expended to help people rationalize being on the government dole.  Unemployment is actually insurance, Social Security is actually a trust, and so forth.  None of this is true, of course.  In the end, you're living off of other people's money, money that was taken from them and given to you.  Renaming the program won't change that.  It may help you sleep at night, but only if you don't think very hard about what's happening.

Myself, I prefer to call a spade a spade.  Unemployment = welfare. 

Gawd, I'd hate to hear what he calls my military pension...

I'm not even gonna wait for that.