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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2009, 03:03:10 PM »
Is there any tobacco that is tobacco only with no additives or only non toxic additives for flavor? Not that I can smoke anyways. It makes my heart rate do bad things. I prefer my heart not explode.
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2009, 03:14:01 PM »
Meh.

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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2009, 03:21:59 PM »
Is there any tobacco that is tobacco only with no additives or only non toxic additives for flavor? Not that I can smoke anyways. It makes my heart rate do bad things. I prefer my heart not explode.
Snus is supposedly the least harmful option, beyond not using tobacco at all. Has something to do with how the tobacco is cured.
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2009, 04:05:16 PM »
Nada, I've just always loved the aroma of pipe smoke, and it's something I wanted to try.  Hence, I pick you guy's collective brains.

Have you decided on a style of pipe?

http://www.cupojoes.com/cgi-bin/spgm?dpt=W&srch=DW&item=cstors6106

Does that style work for you?
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2009, 04:29:47 PM »
That's really similar to what I've been looking at.  I like the churchwarden style, but the one in the pic just seems more practical.


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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2009, 04:44:10 PM »
PM me your address...I'll send you my extra one to get you started.
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2009, 12:08:48 AM »
Is pipe smoking any safer than cigarettes? I don't know what is in pipe tobacco but I know cig tobacco has a number of horrors in it.
I've seen a few studies that indicate that your health risks are measurably the same as for a non smoker so long as you keep your tobacco usage under about one cigar/pipe/pack each day.  Risks rise rapidly if you smoke more frequently and/or if you drink alcohol while smoking.

Most casual hobbyist smokers only smoke once or twice a week.  My take on it is that we don't have any real risks over and above what's normal for any person.  That doesn't mean you can't get cancer and die, just means you're no more likely to than if you hadn't smoked.

Is there any tobacco that is tobacco only with no additives or only non toxic additives for flavor? Not that I can smoke anyways. It makes my heart rate do bad things. I prefer my heart not explode.
Cigars are 100% tobacco, nothing else.  Most pipe blends are 100% tobacco too, but some have modest flavorings added in.  I don't think flavors are any worse than the stuff found in the food we eat every day.
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2009, 01:38:21 AM »
I've seen a few studies that indicate that your health risks are measurably the same as for a non smoker

Yep, 1:1 odds of dying either way.  Any years lost come off the nursing home end anyway.


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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2009, 12:31:38 PM »
most pipe smokers don't inhale, so that's a +1 for pipes against cigarettes. in addition to that, most pipe smokers smoke less than cigarette smokers, so reduced useage=reduced risk...

other than that little bit, i don't concern myself with it too much. if i wanted to be completely healthy i wouldn't smoke, drink, etc....

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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2009, 01:47:52 PM »
I puff on a pipe about the same amount I do a cigar, 2-3 times a year.  Big smoker, for sure.  I have a little stubby pipe I bought many years ago and smoke Captain Black.  I just like it.  I like Romeo y Julieta cigars, large, long and black.  That is about it.  I have glaucoma so if the green leafy smoke ever becomes legal, I might try it.  It has been a long time since the 60s......chris3

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Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2009, 01:23:59 PM »
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2009, 05:58:53 PM »
I love pipes, and cigars, but don't smoke them too often.  I have a few "seconds" briars from various Boston tobaconists, and a corncob for travelling.  My favorite tobacco has to be Penzance, with frog morton coming in second, being more aromatic.

I still don't have the skill to keep one lit too well though, or pack it such that it stays lit easily.
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2009, 09:19:22 PM »
fill it, pack to a third full. fill it pack to to thirds full, fill it pack it. light it. ;)

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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2009, 10:16:25 PM »
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2009, 01:55:14 AM »
Any arsenic supplement takers here?  Benzene?  Pesticides?  Heavy metals?

I've heard if you only take them once in a blue moon the risks are negligible, and gosh if they doesn't taste pretty good!

I stopped taking mine for a while, but I got so jittery I had to do something to compensate.  Set up a grill inside so I could enjoy BBQ smoke.  It unstressed me but didn't do anything for my cravings, so I'm back to popping toxin pills.


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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2009, 12:48:17 PM »
I love pipes, and cigars, but don't smoke them too often.  I have a few "seconds" briars from various Boston tobaconists, and a corncob for travelling.  My favorite tobacco has to be Penzance, with frog morton coming in second, being more aromatic.

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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2009, 06:47:53 PM »
Any arsenic supplement takers here?  Benzene?  Pesticides?  Heavy metals?

I've heard if you only take them once in a blue moon the risks are negligible, and gosh if they doesn't taste pretty good!

I stopped taking mine for a while, but I got so jittery I had to do something to compensate.  Set up a grill inside so I could enjoy BBQ smoke.  It unstressed me but didn't do anything for my cravings, so I'm back to popping toxin pills.


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I take it you're not crazy about tobacco...  :lol:

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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2009, 10:28:08 PM »
Any arsenic supplement takers here?  Benzene?  Pesticides?  Heavy metals?

I've heard if you only take them once in a blue moon the risks are negligible, and gosh if they doesn't taste pretty good!

I stopped taking mine for a while, but I got so jittery I had to do something to compensate.  Set up a grill inside so I could enjoy BBQ smoke.  It unstressed me but didn't do anything for my cravings, so I'm back to popping toxin pills.


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1. Those are mainly found in cigarettes, not pipe tobacco.
2. Pipe smoke should not be inhaled.
3. Either you live far out in the country, are entirely ignorant of the air composition in major cities, or wear a gas mask every time you leave your clean room.
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2009, 11:20:06 PM »
Any arsenic supplement takers here?  Benzene?  Pesticides?  Heavy metals?

I've heard if you only take them once in a blue moon the risks are negligible, and gosh if they doesn't taste pretty good!

I stopped taking mine for a while, but I got so jittery I had to do something to compensate.  Set up a grill inside so I could enjoy BBQ smoke.  It unstressed me but didn't do anything for my cravings, so I'm back to popping toxin pills.


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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2009, 09:04:29 AM »
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1. Those are mainly found in cigarettes, not pipe tobacco.
According to which studies?  I have found no useful information on differences in content between tobacco in cigarettes and tobacco sold for pipe smoking (or chewing I suppose).  If this packaged tobacco is so harmless and organic (in the food-organic sense, not the chemical-organic sense), how is it that people who chew tobacco are at such high risk of mouth cancer?

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2. Pipe smoke should not be inhaled.
Okay.  I did look at a bit of information about pipe smoking when I first saw this thread, and I saw that recommendation everywhere, but I can't fathom how it works.  Can someone explain this to me because obviously I've never smoked a pipe.

There's the pipe.  There's the tobacco in the pipe.  And it's burning.  So there's smoke coming out of the pipe, and that smoke goes into your mouth, and into the air in the room?

So the pipe smoker breathes in, holds his breath, puts the pipe in his mouth, lets smoke collect for a while, then breathes it all out?  Or the pipe smoker puts the pipe in his mouth, puffs (isn't that inhaling a little?), lets the smoke collect without actively closing off the airway, and then breathes it out eventually?  That second method doesn't seem to me like it can be called "not inhaling".  More like "not inhaling deeply".  Because not inhaling means literally holding your breath while the pipe is in your mouth, otherwise some smoke is going to get into your lungs.

Not to mention that there will be tobacco smoke in the air.  Not to mention that some stuff in the smoke can be absorbed through mucus membranes.

After all that, what's the appeal?  The dilute smell of tobacco smoke in the air?  The taste of... what?  Can you taste the smoke in your mouth?  The nicotine high?


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3. Either you live far out in the country, are entirely ignorant of the air composition in major cities, or wear a gas mask every time you leave your clean room.
Really?  Those are the only choices?    ;/
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2009, 10:01:41 AM »
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So the pipe smoker breathes in, holds his breath, puts the pipe in his mouth, lets smoke collect for a while, then breathes it all out?  Or the pipe smoker puts the pipe in his mouth, puffs (isn't that inhaling a little?), lets the smoke collect without actively closing off the airway, and then breathes it out eventually?  That second method doesn't seem to me like it can be called "not inhaling".  More like "not inhaling deeply".  Because not inhaling means literally holding your breath while the pipe is in your mouth, otherwise some smoke is going to get into your lungs.

with pipe and cigar smoking, there is no breathing, only puffing. like sucking on a straw to drink your soda. you'd never inhale your soda, you just use your mouth to create suction to draw the smoke into your mouth. then, you can blow out the smoke, or in the case of a cigarette, inhale it.

and yea, if you're smoking inside you will be inhaling some smoke, but i've never been a fan of hotboxing a room with tobacco smoke.  =D

and what's the appeal? a common question from people that either hate the smell of smoke or those who have never smoked. it's relaxing, smells and tastes good (if you get good tobacco), and there's a real dedication and process to smoking a pipe that a cigarette or cigar doesn't have. you just light it and smoke it. with a pipe, you have to tend it, make sure it doesn't go out or burn too hot...

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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2009, 05:00:59 PM »
I just don't understand the temperance lecture..  

We're all adults here.  Yes, smoking has inherent risks.  We accept that.

I'm a big fan of good whiskey, scotch and bourbon, too.
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Re: Any pipe smokers here?
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2009, 09:57:58 PM »
and now you know why i just post smiles  ;)