Doodling on your desk = Call the police?

[Boomhauer]

Our school systems have much similarities to yours Micro, but when I mentioned this:

And now if they throw one of the real troublemakers into detention, then the troublemaker's mother, a screeching harpy, comes to the school to holler about how her baby "Didn't do nuthin!"

I'm talking about a different situation than what you are talking about...it's the entitlement class's interactions with the schools.

I've seen what you talk about in person, too, so I do understand.

[Tallpine]

Not here. You, your bag, locker, or car can be searched for any time for just about any reason. It's the "War Against Drugs!"

Home of the Brave, Land of the Free

Jody Miller, circa 1965

[Marnoot]

Microbalrog, Avenger29 is referring to the situation similar to one we see on the news frequently. A gangsta is arrested after being seen gunning down another gangsta, an officer, etc. Cut to interview of said gangsta's mother: "My baby would never do nothin' like that! They settin' him up! He's a good boy!"

[freakazoid]

I also got into a number of fights against bullies from the age of 13-15. Nothing happened, not even after I had wrestled a classmate to the ground and then dragged him down three flights of stairs by his feet,

Back when I was in high school two kids got into a fight off school property and it wasn't even school hours and they both got detention.

While I don't remember any bag searches, after Columbine the school banned any backpacks for a long time. Irked me enough that I actually put my books in a trash bag and drug it around, no one said anything except for one teacher who I really disliked.

[Viking]

You can hate and respect something.   

Hate and fear more likely.

[Scout26]

Microbalrog, Avenger29 is referring to the situation similar to one we see on the news frequently. A gangsta is arrested after being seen gunning down another gangsta, an officer, etc. Cut to interview of said gangsta's mother: "My baby would never do nothin' like that! They settin' him up! He's a good boy!"

Meanwhile the family of the gangsta' that got shot, is also on TV: "He's a good person/  He's was turning his life around because he had gone to church last week and had enrolled in classes to get his GED."  

[RevDisk]

Microbalrog, Avenger29 is referring to the situation similar to one we see on the news frequently. A gangsta is arrested after being seen gunning down another gangsta, an officer, etc. Cut to interview of said gangsta's mother: "My baby would never do nothin' like that! They settin' him up! He's a good boy!"

I wonder why folks do that.  The self-denial thing.

[freakazoid]

I wonder why folks do that.  The self-denial thing.

Because they don't want to actually have to deal with it?

[Scout26]

Because they don't want to actually have to deal with it?

Since they've been completely uninvolved dropped the ball raising their spawn, they can't believe that their "little" thug has joined a gang and become a thug. 

[Jamisjockey]

And now if they throw one of the real troublemakers into detention, then the troublemaker's mother, a screeching harpy, comes to the school to holler about how her baby "Didn't do nuthin!"

Semi-tangent here, but after watching American Idol a few times, you see this as a theme over and over.  Child is a screeching harpy and Simon makes fun of them.  They go crying out of the audition.  Mom refuses to recognize that Bimbettas only marketable skill is making sure people supersize thier orders.  There is a reality disconnect between many parents image of thier children and who their children really are.  Its mind boggling.

[RoadKingLarry]

Alexa was assigned eight hours of community service, a book report and an essay on what she learned from the experience.

What I Learned.
By Alexa.

My school is administered by morons.
My teachers are idiots.
The Family Court Judge is a brainless dolt.
The officer that arrested me and placed me in handcuffs is a power mad psychopath.

The end.

[Scout26]

When I was an MP we were expressly forbidden from ever putting juveniles in cuffs. 

Also had to call in departure and arrival times and two MP's had to be in the vehicle.

[roo_ster]

It DID reinforce to me that if I have to fight, I should put my opponent down hard and permanently.  "Authority" will never be my friend when responding to something outside of its control.

Oh so true.

[griz]

Several things I just don't understand:

1. Why did somebody call the police in the first place?  Sounds like something that should be handled by the school.

2. When the police recieve a call that a kid wrote on a desk, why did they even send somebody out?

3. Why did the officer decide to arrest the kid?  Certainly they have some say so as to who they haul in.  Even if it is a crime to write on a desk (and I don't know that it is)  wouldn't it be like a ticket for littering instead of a trip to the station?

It just seems there were so many opportunities for common sense to step in and put a halt to this whole mess.

[Scout26]

Several things I just don't understand:

1. Why did somebody call the police in the first place?  Sounds like something that should be handled by the school.

2. When the police recieve a call that a kid wrote on a desk, why did they even send somebody out?

3. Why did the officer decide to arrest the kid?  Certainly they have some say so as to who they haul in.  Even if it is a crime to write on a desk (and I don't know that it is)  wouldn't it be like a ticket for littering instead of a trip to the station?

It just seems there were so many opportunities for common sense to step in and put a halt to this whole mess.

That's the problem, it's giant bag of common sense FAIL at each step.....

[geronimotwo]

i always wonder about the kids behavior up to this point.   was this someone known for graffiti, and was taunting the teacher with the use of a nonpermanent marker.  of course, calling the principal, or the police only reinforces the lack of authority on the part of the teacher.

[TechMan]

Several things I just don't understand:

1. Why did somebody call the police in the first place?  Sounds like something that should be handled by the school.

2. When the police recieve a call that a kid wrote on a desk, why did they even send somebody out?

3. Why did the officer decide to arrest the kid?  Certainly they have some say so as to who they haul in.  Even if it is a crime to write on a desk (and I don't know that it is)  wouldn't it be like a ticket for littering instead of a trip to the station?

It just seems there were so many opportunities for common sense to step in and put a halt to this whole mess.

I would ask who called the police the teacher or the principal.  If it was the teacher then the principal should have intervened and handled it internally to the school.

The crime could have been damaging public property or something along that line.

There is no common sense in our public education system anymore.

I also believe RoadKingLarry has come up with the perfect essay for the girl.

[freakazoid]

i always wonder about the kids behavior up to this point.   was this someone known for graffiti, and was taunting the teacher with the use of a nonpermanent marker.

""I love my friends Abby and Faith," the girl wrote, adding the phrases "Lex was here. 2/1/10" and a smiley face."

I highly, HIGHLY doubt any of that is true.

The crime could have been damaging public property or something along that line.

Damaging public property for using an erasable marker?

[Levant]

Where was the adult supervision in this?

1.  Teacher sends kid to principle.  Could be a reasonable response but the teacher could have just said to stop. 
2.  Principle calls police?  She should be fired.
3.  Police show up and cuff school kid?  They should be fired.
4.  Supervisor of police and/or others at the precinct all them to bring a kid in and hold her?  Fire them all
5.  Prosecuting attorney gets case and doesn't yell at everyone involved except the kid?  Fire him, too.
6.  Judge hears the case and doesn't toss it out while reminding the whole bunch of them about that thing called the Constitution?  Fire him, too.

The most adult person in this entire story was the kid.  All those people and not a single one of them could think for themselves well enough to recognize something was wrong.

Just say no to drugs, my tail.... How about "Just Say No to Arresting Children For Childish Pranks"

[MicroBalrog]

Where was the adult supervision in this?

1.  Teacher sends kid to principle.  Could be a reasonable response but the teacher could have just said to stop. 
2.  Principle calls police?  She should be fired.

This is from another thread, but it applies here:


"This principal is a bully and a coward, and needs to be held accountable."

[seeker_two]

I just love the way the "establishment" is creating its own future rebels....