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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #100 on: August 01, 2010, 06:15:19 PM »
Yep.  That counts.

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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #101 on: September 10, 2013, 06:50:45 PM »
any new news?  any charges?
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #102 on: September 10, 2013, 08:35:04 PM »
No criminal charges, of course (because the inherent conflict of interest when government agents are the perps.)   School settled class action suit for $600K, which I assume all went to the lawyers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School_District
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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #103 on: September 10, 2013, 09:36:25 PM »
did they ever come up with why they went after the kid who got the 175 k? 
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #104 on: September 10, 2013, 10:00:09 PM »
did they ever come up with why they went after the kid who got the 175 k? 

60k ish pictures were recovered after the school district tried deleting the evidence.

No motive was specified. Could have just been trolling randomly, could have been targeted. The school administration had a number of stories, often conflicting as folks tried throwing others under the bus. No way to know, as government declined to prosecute, citing lacking "criminal intent" while admittedly violating state and federal law. Victims signed NDAs for a check.  School officials have no interest in admitting to more criminal activities.
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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #105 on: September 10, 2013, 10:40:55 PM »
I take that back.  If the information in that post is true, people are going to jail. 

There is absolutely no way what happened was excusable.   Also, informed consent is impossible if the laptops were required for classes and the students were not allowed to substitute their own.


60k ish pictures were recovered after the school district tried deleting the evidence.

No motive was specified. Could have just been trolling randomly, could have been targeted. The school administration had a number of stories, often conflicting as folks tried throwing others under the bus. No way to know, as government declined to prosecute, citing lacking "criminal intent" while admittedly violating state and federal law. Victims signed NDAs for a check.  School officials have no interest in admitting to more criminal activities.

Seems I spoke too soon.  :facepalm:
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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #106 on: September 10, 2013, 10:52:55 PM »

Seems I spoke too soon.  :facepalm:

You forgot that our AG is a gun-runner for the Mexican Mafia, and winks at the New Black Panthers intimidating voters at the polls.

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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #107 on: September 10, 2013, 11:30:52 PM »
The FBI said that there was no proof anyone had criminal intent?  YOu don't have to have "breaking the law" as your intent to have criminal intent.  You only need to have intent to take some action that is against the law.  There's a difference.  These are child pornographers and need to be jailed.  Instead, the FBI probably hired whoever wrote the software.
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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #108 on: September 11, 2013, 07:03:29 PM »
The FBI said that there was no proof anyone had criminal intent?  YOu don't have to have "breaking the law" as your intent to have criminal intent.  You only need to have intent to take some action that is against the law.  There's a difference.  These are child pornographers and need to be jailed.  Instead, the FBI probably hired whoever wrote the software.

 “For the government to prosecute a criminal case, it must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person charged acted with criminal intent. We have not found evidence that would establish beyond a reasonable doubt that anyone involved had criminal intent. I understand that the civil litigation continues. I chose to make this announcement before the beginning of the school year to close at least one part of this matter.”

http://www.fbi.gov/philadelphia/press-releases/2010/ph081710.htm


Na, the software got bought out by another company and they changed the name.
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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #109 on: September 11, 2013, 10:39:09 PM »
I read what the FBI said about criminal intent in the original article.  Just because they say it doesn't make it so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat

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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #110 on: September 12, 2013, 10:25:21 AM »
“For the government to prosecute a criminal case, it must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person charged acted with criminal intent. We have not found evidence that would establish beyond a reasonable doubt that anyone involved had criminal intent. I understand that the civil litigation continues. I chose to make this announcement before the beginning of the school year to close at least one part of this matter.”

http://www.fbi.gov/philadelphia/press-releases/2010/ph081710.htm


Na, the software got bought out by another company and they changed the name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_Manage

Professional courtesy among pedophiles?
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Re: Big Brother spying? Who'da thunk it!
« Reply #111 on: September 12, 2013, 10:44:47 AM »
60k ish pictures were recovered after the school district tried deleting the evidence.

... and no charges were filed.

And I'm sure anyone NOT in the government's employ would get the same treatment after trying to destroy evidence, right?
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