2010 Kia Sedona reviews

[Marnoot]

So is the Expedition the replacement for the Exploder 

The Expedition is just a larger SUV than the Explorer. Unrelated models.

[Brad Johnson]

Ford SUV, from smallest to largest:
Explorer
Expedition
Expedition EL

In Chevy-speak the models above would be equivalent to (in respective order):
Jimmy/Blazer
Tahoe
Suburban

Brad

[Declaration Day]

Ford SUV, from smallest to largest:

Escape
Explorer
Expedition
Expedition EL

You forgot the Escape!  Fixed it for ya!

[sanglant]

and you forgot to add the tracker(or what ever there calling it now) to the chevys

[Declaration Day]

and you forgot to add the tracker(or what ever there calling it now) to the chevys

The Tracker was cancelled a while ago, and was never really replaced.  The Equinox is Chevy's smallest SUV, and is a completely different type of vehicle.

[sanglant]

  figured as much, seems someone want's all the cheap cars off the road.

[Harold Tuttle]

I think the equinox is made in the canadian CAMI plant that made the Suzuki sidekicks and geo trackers

[Declaration Day]

I think the equinox is made in the canadian CAMI plant that made the Suzuki sidekicks and geo trackers

Could be, but again it's a totally different type of vehicle.  The Equinox is a front wheel drive unibody SUV.  The Tracker was, in many ways, a mini Jeep Wrangler.  Rear wheel drive, body on ladder frame, true 4X4.  Most of today's smaller SUVs have some type of all wheel drive system, even if it's marketed as "4x4".

[Jamisjockey]

Well?  When are you going to come by and get me so we can go pick up chicks in the chick magnet-o-van? 

[Jamisjockey]

Wife had a '98 tracker.  Great little rig, miss it.  Very basic and spartan, though, but it was still a neat rig.  Traded it in on a Suzuki Vitara.  The tracker was the only car we traded in where the first offer was for more than we owed, and then the dealer had it sold before they got done detailing it. 

[Brad Johnson]

Cousin of mine has a Suzuki Sidekick.  Dirt simple, not exactly comfortable, and about as fancy as a cardboard box, but dang if that little sucker isn't tough as nails.  She's tortured it for the better part of fifteen years and it still hangs in there.  I know she's run it out of oil at least twice, the transmission sounds like a blender full of ball bearings, and the CV joints clatter like playing cards in bicycle spokes, but the little 'Zuke still keeps trucking.

Brad

[Tallpine]

Cousin of mine has a Suzuki Sidekick.  Dirt simple, not exactly comfortable, and about as fancy as a cardboard box, but dang if that little sucker isn't tough as nails.  She's tortured it for the better part of fifteen years and it still hangs in there.  I know she's run it out of oil at least twice, the transmission sounds like a blender full of ball bearings, and the CV joints clatter like playing cards in bicycle spokes, but the little 'Zuke still keeps trucking.

Brad

My wife's cousin had one of those.  It was a decent little rig, but he drove it like an idiot.  They came up in the mountains see us and we went local sightseeing, and I thought he was going to kill us all. 

One of those would actually be handy where we live now - take off the top and use it like an oversize ATV :)

[Harold Tuttle]

I had a 89 sidekick as my first new car.
My wife cried when we traded it in on a 4 door Sidekick.

[mtnbkr]

Well?  When are you going to come by and get me so we can go pick up chicks in the chick magnet-o-van? 

Haven't bought one yet.  We're still shopping.

Chris

[Jamisjockey]

Haven't bought one yet.  We're still shopping.

Chris

Dang it man!  Pull the trigger already!   

[Harold Tuttle]

get a swagger wagon!

[seeker_two]

figured as much, seems someone want's all the cheap cars off the road.

Not so....they still make the cheap cars.....they just charge more for them.... 

[Silver Bullet]

My recollection is the Explorer is built on the Ranger frame, and the Expedition is built on the F-150 (or bigger).

[Tallpine]

My recollection is the Explorer is built on the Ranger frame, and the Expedition is built on the F-150 (or bigger).

That's what I thought, which would have made it roughly analogous to a Suburban - or maybe not 

[Declaration Day]

The Explorer was built on the Ranger frame for a long time.  A complete redesign for 2002 changed that.

The Expedition EL is Ford's equivalent of a Suburban, except it is not available on a heavy duty frame.

[Tallpine]

The Explorer was built on the Ranger frame for a long time.  A complete redesign for 2002 changed that.

The Expedition EL is Ford's equivalent of a Suburban, except it is not available on a heavy duty frame.

BTW, there was a 2wd Suburban converted to dual rear wheels on a used car lot in Billings a few years back. 

[Declaration Day]

I've seen a couple of neat custom trucks around here.  One was a dually Suburban like you describe (not sure if it's 4x4), the other is an older Ford F-350 dually with a crew cab plus extended cab.

[Silver Bullet]

Chevrolet’s web site

http://www.chevrolet.com/suburban1-2ton/features-specs/

that their half-ton and 3/4 ton Suburbans have a cargo capacity of 137 cubic feet, but doesn’t say anything about “behind the first row”.  Can you remove and/or flatten the seats in a Suburban for greater cargo space ? 

In any case, 137 cubic feet is comparable to the Odyssey and Sienna capacities of 147 cubic feet.

[Jamisjockey]

Chevrolet’s web site

http://www.chevrolet.com/suburban1-2ton/features-specs/

that their half-ton and 3/4 ton Suburbans have a cargo capacity of 137 cubic feet, but doesn’t say anything about “behind the first row”.  Can you remove and/or flatten the seats in a Suburban for greater cargo space ? 

In any case, 137 cubic feet is comparable to the Odyssey and Sienna capacities of 147 cubic feet.

Not sure.  Wife's is actually the big expensive brother of the Suburban, an Escalade.  The middle row folds forward, and the 3rd row comes out.  But, her middle row has the power fold option.  Maybe a 'burban without the power fold seats, maybe they'll come out?

[Tallpine]

Chevrolet’s web site

http://www.chevrolet.com/suburban1-2ton/features-specs/

that their half-ton and 3/4 ton Suburbans have a cargo capacity of 137 cubic feet, but doesn’t say anything about “behind the first row”.  Can you remove and/or flatten the seats in a Suburban for greater cargo space ? 

In any case, 137 cubic feet is comparable to the Odyssey and Sienna capacities of 147 cubic feet.

In our old Suburban, the second row folds down flat.  You can haul some number of 4x8 sheets of plywood then, only limited by height (well, weight too after a point) because the back doors slope inward.

The third seat is totally removeable, just like the older full size Blazers.  The newer ones - I think the 3rd seat folds down and there is a footwell too.

We use ours more like a pickup anymore.  I don't think the third seat has been in there for five years.  I wish I could convert it to a 4-door pickup with a short bed