are you attempting to refute either the police chiefs statement? or the phoenix reps statement? i missed how unless the mayors political position has some bearing
I am discounting the validity of the San Diego Police Chief's statement. A Chief of Police is a political appointee who serves at the pleasure of his Mayor. His job is to be the police force's public figurehead and to direct department policy to suit the mayor/city council's direction. I wouldn't expect to hear a spokesman for a self-proclaimed sanctuary city say "Yeah, crime has sure gone way up lately". Would you?
I prefer to hear from elected officials, so I'll look for statements from sheriffs instead. Here are a couple of articles regarding the San Diego Sheriff's Office:
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/article_7bbfd569-fdba-50c0-aed0-dc19f7871441.htmlReal People, including the Sheriff(an elected official) seem less than happy about illegals' "contributions" to the community. However, that article is from 2006 - maybe the voters didn't like hearing that, and elected this guy instead:
http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2010-07-15/local-county-news/sd-sheriff-gore-rails-against-arizona-immigration-lawSeems like a really reasonable, apolitical guy, committed to law enforcement. :rolleyes:
San Diego is clearly not a qualified example.
As for the Phoenix rep, he's kind of like the police chief... except for lower on the food chain. Maybe he's looking at the NDN numbers, too.
And I would say only that the statistics generated from some of the conservative sources are just as suspect as the statistics generated from some of the liberal sources.
Nobody's denying that. I asked for an objective source, not an equal-but-opposite source :I
I'm just tired of clicking C&SD's links, then going up a few levels to see "advocacy group", "immigration policy center", etc. I don't think it's honest to present them as valid sources of objective statistics.
By the way, I meant to mention earlier but forgot: the Phoenix New Times has a MAJOR ax to grind against Arpaio. There were some possibly politically-motivated arrests made on New Times staff(publishers, maybe?) - which again, I do not defend - but the New Times has declared itself an enemy of Sheriff Joe. They will not be a reliable source of news relating to him or his causes.