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Ergs is ergs
« on: August 06, 2010, 10:52:29 AM »
Exploding watermelons with a 10kV power company line transformer.

This kinda makes R. Lee Ermy's efforts look pitiful

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/07/splodin_watermelons_with_10000_volt.html

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« Last Edit: August 06, 2010, 11:46:19 AM by 230RN »
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2010, 11:50:39 AM »
I showed this to a couple of electrical engineers at my office and their statement is "We have to do this."
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2010, 12:00:32 PM »
I wonder how he has that sucker wired up?  Looks like a residential area.

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2010, 12:10:17 PM »
I wonder how he has that sucker wired up?  Looks like a residential area.

Look carefully, in the video (0:25), you can see a transformer that would normally be sitting on an electric pole.  I would have to assume that it is a step up transformer.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2010, 12:12:38 PM »
Look carefully, in the video (0:25), you can see a transformer that would normally be sitting on an electric pole.  I would have to assume that it is a step up transformer.

Right, but back-feeding something that large would result in so much in-rush, I don't see how it wouldn't pop breakers.

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2010, 12:14:32 PM »
Right, but back-feeding something that large would result in so much in-rush, I don't see how it wouldn't pop breakers.

Good point.  I can ask one of the EEs what he thinks is going on.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2010, 12:36:27 PM »
I wondered if somehow he charged up one of those humongous phase-correcting power line capacitors and dumped that into the melon.  He'd have to rectify it to DC first, though.  I would guess if he had that xfrmr in the yard, he had access to other HV stuff, maybe HV rectifiers, too.

In some spark-photography experiments I did years ago, I used 16 1kV silicon rectifiers (1N4006) in series to charge a couple of caps from a 10kV oil burner ignition xfrmr.  (10kV x 1.414 = 14.14 kV peak voltage.)   But those were only one-amp units.

The crack from the spark sounded like a .22 rifle, at least in my garage.

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2010, 12:38:14 PM »
I wondered if somehow he charged up one of those humongous phase-correcting power line capacitors and dumped that into the melon.

Maybe.  It's entirely possible, and really not a bad idea.

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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2010, 01:42:35 PM »
Okay, so can anyone make me a Lightning gun like in Quake?  =D
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2010, 02:05:25 PM »
Don't give Nick any ideas, Cromlech.   >:D
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2010, 02:07:48 PM »
The local power co-op does stuff like that at their safety demonstrations.
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 02:23:03 PM »
Pfft...

All you techno types and no one noticed the Tesla coil.  And you call yourselves observant. :laugh:

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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2010, 02:29:19 PM »
Pfft...

All you techno types and no one noticed the Tesla coil.  And you call yourselves observant. :laugh:

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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2010, 02:51:20 PM »

Meh.  A .50 Beowulf blows 'em just just as well:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DDVnrESOk0&NR=1

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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2010, 04:53:57 PM »
Meh.  A .50 Beowulf blows 'em just just as well.

But with ergs I don't have to worry about my backstop.
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 05:27:47 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2010, 08:37:01 PM »
Edison was right!

Edison talked about 'splodin' watermelons?
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2010, 09:06:37 PM »
Edison talked about 'splodin' watermelons?

Edison may have patented exploding watermelons....he patented everything else....
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2010, 09:08:14 PM »
Meh.  A .50 Beowulf blows 'em just just as well.

I will admit that I was spectacularly underwhelmed when I shot a bunch of pumpkins(just after Thanksgiving) with my 5.45x39 Tantal.  Teeny, tiny little holes.

Made me want a shotgun :/

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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2010, 09:10:45 PM »
I will admit that I was spectacularly underwhelmed when I shot a bunch of pumpkins(just after Thanksgiving) with my 5.45x39 Tantal.  Teeny, tiny little holes.

I got satisfying results blowing up 1-gallon water jugs with a .44 Magnum carbine firing Federal Hydrashoks.

BANG!      *splash*

Ammo did get a bit expensive, though.
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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2010, 09:17:51 PM »
*cue RevDisk, pumpkins and semtex, somewhere in eastern europe.*   :lol: [popcorn]

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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2010, 11:35:21 PM »
Edison talked about 'splodin' watermelons?

Edison warned us that AC power was dangerous stuff!   ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents#Edison.27s_publicity_campaign
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2010, 11:38:48 PM »
It's the amps that get you. ;)

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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2010, 11:55:41 PM »
Amps, schmamps.  It's the coulombs-per-second what getcha. 

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The local power co-op does stuff like that at their safety demonstrations.

So, Tallpine, did they just pop them with plain old AC directly from the transformer?


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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2010, 01:01:59 AM »
What happened to your math? ???

I was going to try to convert it to BTU's. =D  X 1054.9

It's been a while since I messed with capacitor discharge systems. I do remember how it felt. :O

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