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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2010, 01:21:09 AM »
Dang it, Jim 147, I'm sorry.  I pulled that math part out of the post on the grounds that I was thoroughly confused in jumping back and forth with exponential notation on the Windows scientific calculator*.  Forget it.  I'm going to bed.  Maybe things will be more clear in the AM.  Saturday mornings are better for that sort of stuff.

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* A lot of people don't know that Windows has a scientific calculator.  Go to Start, Programs, Accessories, Calculator.  When the four-banger comes up, click on View, and select Scientific.

« Last Edit: August 07, 2010, 01:41:03 AM by 230RN »
WHATEVER YOUR DEFINITION OF "INFRINGE " IS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2010, 01:28:32 AM »
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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2010, 01:49:45 AM »
Jim, see your PMs. 
WHATEVER YOUR DEFINITION OF "INFRINGE " IS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2010, 01:55:26 AM »
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I was spectacularly underwhelmed when I shot a bunch of pumpkins(just after Thanksgiving) with my 5.45x39 Tantal.  Teeny, tiny little holes.

You did it wrong, there is supposed to be a small (or large) container of tannerite in the pumpkin before you shoot it.

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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2010, 11:22:56 AM »
Jim, see your PMs. 

Is it that time of the month again?...  :facepalm:
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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2010, 01:37:02 PM »
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So, Tallpine, did they just pop them with plain old AC directly from the transformer?

Actually, they hooked a transformer up backwards so that the current was back up to the line voltage - 15K or some such.

They fried various fruits and vegetables and even set a car tire on fire (and you thought rubber was an insulator?  :O )
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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2010, 03:17:44 PM »
Jim, see your PMs. 

I have a house full right now. I'm in the garage doing some work. (Working on some cold ones.)

The first CD box we ever used for the race car was rated in Joules  ??? I flipped through my books and found a conversion to BTU. That helped a lot. ;/  It did get me once. It left a pretty good mark.

I had a tech get between a transformer and a mag tube once. And he only did it once.

I didn't even think about hooking the transformer up backwards. That would be about the same as someone running a generator without a transfer or pulling the main. :O No wonder the power company doesn't like to see backfeed cables.

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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2010, 11:36:30 PM »
Actually, they hooked a transformer up backwards so that the current was back up to the line voltage - 15K or some such.

They fried various fruits and vegetables and even set a car tire on fire (and you thought rubber was an insulator?  :O )

Use enough voltage and anything will conduct  =D
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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2010, 02:26:44 AM »
Use enough voltage and anything will conduct  =D

And, if you put the right thing in there (electrodes in a vacuum), you can create a ton of hard X-rays!

Think I saw someone get up to 3 rad/hr on the net in a home shop.   :O


I'm still surprised that you could backfeed a transformer of that many KVA without the inrush blowing every breaker along the way.

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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2010, 10:51:09 AM »
Think I saw someone get up to 3 rad/hr on the net in a home shop.   :O

Aieee!  That's a little into insane territory....
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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2010, 04:18:03 PM »
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I'm still surprised that you could backfeed a transformer of that many KVA without the inrush blowing every breaker along the way.

They had a high voltage breaker hooked in with the transformer.

They actually had to reset it quite a few times.

Very interesting demonstration.  You don't want to be anywhere near a downed power line  :O
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Re: Ergs is ergs
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2010, 03:26:58 PM »
"A kilovolt here, a kilovolt there, pretty soon you're talking real electricity."

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