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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2010, 08:16:41 PM »
Now being reported as an airliner contrail, specifically, America West Flt. 808 from Honolulu to Phoenix.  DoD confirmed their agreement today after examining all of their data from various sources.
A blogger actually captured webcam images of yesterday's AW 808 flight leaving the same kind of contrail at roughly the same time as Monday's event when it would have been flying through.  Looked like a missile launch that time, too, just not as long a track.
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2010, 10:03:43 PM »
Now being reported as an airliner contrail, specifically, America West Flt. 808 from Honolulu to Phoenix.  DoD confirmed their agreement today after examining all of their data from various sources.
A blogger actually captured webcam images of yesterday's AW 808 flight leaving the same kind of contrail at roughly the same time as Monday's event when it would have been flying through.  Looked like a missile launch that time, too, just not as long a track.

So nobody ever noticed anything like that before...?  =|
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2010, 10:22:49 PM »
So nobody ever noticed anything like that before...?  =|


I'm sure they have.

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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #78 on: November 11, 2010, 07:53:44 AM »
Still bears a striking resemblance to what I have seen. I'd almost call BS, that's how strikingly similar we're talking.

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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #79 on: November 11, 2010, 04:01:02 PM »
Now being reported as an airliner contrail, specifically, America West Flt. 808 from Honolulu to Phoenix
The missile appeared to be headed west, out over the Pacific. If it were an airliner going from Hawaii to Arizona, shouldn't it have been going east?   ???
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #80 on: November 11, 2010, 05:05:06 PM »
The missile appeared to be headed west, out over the Pacific. If it were an airliner going from Hawaii to Arizona, shouldn't it have been going east?   ???
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #81 on: November 11, 2010, 09:24:55 PM »
The missile appeared to be headed west, out over the Pacific. If it were an airliner going from Hawaii to Arizona, shouldn't it have been going east?   ???

That is why it's called an "optical illusion".   If you think about it, it does make sense, given the perspectives involved.

Here is a link to the Fox News story from yesterday showing the original controversial image side-by-side with the webcam image of AW808's contrail the next day.  They are very similar contrails.
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #82 on: November 12, 2010, 09:02:55 AM »
Here's a site with a pretty good explanation (as well as similar pictures to back it up).

http://contrailscience.com/a-problem-of-perspective-in-the-oc-new-years-eve-contrail/
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #83 on: November 12, 2010, 09:28:21 AM »
<obiwan>" these are not the contrails you were looking for"<obiwan>

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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #84 on: November 15, 2010, 08:03:22 AM »
just got this. What do we think?

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20101110China Fired Missile Seen In Southern California<

http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madsen-china-fired-missile-seen-in-southern-california/

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November 10, 2010*Pentagon and its embedded media covering up Chinese show of force off LA <http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20101110>*

 China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast.WMR's intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia.  The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to Obama. The day after the missile firing, China's leading credit rating agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating, downgraded sovereign debt rating of the United States to A-plus from AA. The missile demonstration coupled with the downgrading of the United States financial grade represents a military and financial show of force by Beijing toWashington.The Pentagon spin machine, backed by the media reporters who regularly cover the Defense Department, as well as officials of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and the U.S. Northern Command, is now spinning various conspiracy theories, including describing the missile plume videotaped by KCBS news helicopter cameraman Gil Leyvas at around 5:00 pm Pacific Standard Time, during the height of evening rush hour, as the condensation trail from a jet aircraft. Other Pentagon-inspired cover stories are that the missile was actually an amateur rocket or an optical illusion.
  http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/custom/chinesemissile.jpg  /Experts agree that this was a ballistic missile being fired off of Los Angeles. Pentagon insists it was a jet aircraft or model rocket./  There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles International Airport or from  other airports in the region. The Navy and Air Force have said that they were not conducting any missile tests from submarines, ships, or Vandenberg Air Force Base. The Navy has also ruled out an accidental firing from one of its ownsubmarines.Missile experts, including those from Jane's in London, say the plume was definitely from a missile, possibly launched from a submarine. WMR has learned that the missile was likely a  JL-2 ICBM, which has a range of 7,000 miles, and was fired in a northwesterly direction over the Pacific and away from U.S. territory from a Jin class submarine. The Jin class can carry up to twelve such missiles.  Navy sources have revealed that the missile may have impacted on Chinese territory and that the National Security Agency (NSA) likely posseses intercepts of Chinese telemtry signals during the missile firing and subsequent testing operations.  http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/custom/jinclass.jpg  /Japanese and other Asian intelligence agencies believe that a Chinese Jin-class SSBN submarine conducted missile b??show of forceb?? in skies west of Los Angeles.  Asian intelligence sources believe the submarine transited from its base on Hainan through South Pacific waters, where U.S. anti-submarine warfare detection capabilities are not as effective as they are in the northern and mid-Pacific, and then transited north to waters off of Los Angeles. The Pentagon, which has spent billions on ballistic missile defense systems, a pet project of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, is clearly embarrassed over the Chinese show of strength.  http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/custom/jinroute.jpg  /Likely route of Jin-class submarine from Hainan base./  The White House also wants to donwplay the missile story before Presidnet Obama meets with his Chinese counterpart in Seoul and Tokyo.According to Japanese intelligence sources, Beijing has been angry over United States and allied naval exercises in the South China and Yellow Seas, in what China considers its sphere of influence, and the missile firing within the view of people in Southern California was a demonstration that China's navy can also play in waters off the American coast.  For the U.S. Navy, the Chinese show of force is a huge embarassment, especially for the Navy's Pacific Command in Pearl Harbor, where Japan's December 7, 1941 attack on the fleet at Pearl Harbor remains a soresubject./  In 2002, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice reportedly scolded visiting Chinese General Xiong Guankai, the deputy chief of staff for intelligence of the People's Liberation Army, for remarks he allegedly made in 1995 that China would use nuclear weapons on Los Angeles. Xiong denied he made any such comments but the b??spinb?? on the story helped convince Congress to sink billions of additional dollars into  ballistic missile defense, sometimes referred to at b??Star Wars II.b?? 
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #85 on: November 15, 2010, 09:48:22 AM »
Obama's escape capsule back to his home planet of Kenyanania, where everyone has a double rainbow in their back yard, and gets to work on a puppy-powered unicorn.
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #86 on: November 15, 2010, 09:54:05 AM »
It was a manned launch, but something went wrong.

It will splash down on a planet where apes, not men, rule...

But there will be a twist ending.
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #87 on: November 15, 2010, 11:12:32 AM »
too bad someone didn't image the event with a 10 meg camera, as the digi zoom will ID the contrail source quite handily
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #88 on: November 15, 2010, 11:50:07 AM »
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http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/custom/chinesemissile.jpg  /Experts agree that this was a ballistic missile being fired off of Los Angeles. Pentagon insists it was a jet aircraft or model rocket./  There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles International Airport or from  other airports in the region.


There are records of a plane coming in toward L.A.  I have heard few "experts" claim it was a ballistic missile; most I've heard claim it was a plane and the rest was an optical illusion.

If it was a missile, however, do you think anyone would tell us?  Do you think even the above referenced article would even be published?  [tinfoil] :angel: [popcorn] [popcorn]
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #89 on: November 15, 2010, 12:21:28 PM »
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There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles International Airport or from  other airports in the region.

There are records of a plane coming in toward L.A.  I have heard few "experts" claim it was a ballistic missile; most I've heard claim it was a plane and the rest was an optical illusion.

If it was a missile, however, do you think anyone would tell us?  Do you think even the above referenced article would even be published?  [tinfoil] :angel: [popcorn] [popcorn]

Of course, that's why they need to throw in the part where they specify taking off from the region.  They can't say there were no planes in the area period, just that there were none in the region which took off from there.
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #90 on: November 15, 2010, 11:22:37 PM »
Inforwars, Alex Jones, et al.  The most reliable purveyors of the highest quality tin foil hats to be found anywhere.
Fer' cryin' out loud, it was a damn airplane contrail.  The exact same thing was seen the very next day when AW 808 flew through the area again.
Oh, wait...that's just what they want us to think.  That airplane the next day was a plant!  Part of the conspiracy.
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« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2010, 06:45:22 AM »
That came from a northrup employee / former VN 1st LT and I'm not up on my tin foil hatters so this is why you find it here. Thought I'd throw it up and see what came back. I did google the writer afterwards and saw where it was coming from. I know you have a lot of rocket experience but you have to have seen a sub surface launch of one of these things to understand how similar it looks. It's uncanny. Best word I can use to describe it.

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« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2010, 10:52:38 AM »
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November 10, 2010 Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled
 
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November 10, 2010
Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers




 
A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Director Anatoly Perminov of the Russian Federal Space Agency states that an Arkon-1 military satellite monitoring the western coastal regions of North America detected an “EMP anomalous event” occurring on November 8th at 0600 Pacific Standard Time (-8 hours GMT) that bore the “direct signature” of a YJ-62 subsonic anti-ship missile fired from aChinese People’s Liberation Navy Type 041 submarine (NATO code name Yuan-Class) [photo 2nd left] known to be patrolling approximately 200 kilometers off United States coast.
Nearly 11 hours after this EMP “event”, this report further says, Arkon-1 then detected a BGM-109 (Tomahawk) subsonic cruise missile launched from a US Navy Ohio-Class submarine operating off the coast of California [photo bottom left] on a “training mission” from its home port located at US Navy’s Kitsap Base in Washington State and was enroute to the largest American Naval Base on the US west coast in San Diego, California.   
Note: A Russian military intelligence (GRU) addendum to this report states that the “training mission” the Ohio-Class submarine was on is related to a new US law passed this year allowing for the first time in history for women to serve on US Navy subs and was an “operational exercise” testing female Naval Officers competence prior to their first “operational deployment”.
The “immediate effect” of the Chinese Navy’s firing of their EMP missile, this report continues, was the “catastrophic crippling” of the US based cruise ship Carnival Splendor [photo 3rd left] that stranded its nearly 4,500 passengers and crew in a “dead in the water” boat and prompting the Americans to send the US Navy’s Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier, warplanes, and supply aircraft to protect it from further attack after all of its electronic systems were destroyed.
An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) such as was used upon the Carnival Splendor is a burst of electromagnetic radiation that causes rapidly changing electric fields (or magnetic fields) that when coupling with electrical/electronic systems produces damaging current and voltage surges destroying all non-hardened electrical systems.
The US Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC) had previously warned that American ships were vulnerable to such attacks with EMP Assessment Group Leader of Blaise Corbett stating that “the consequences of failing to take appropriate precautions to protect fleet mission critical systems can ultimately prove catastrophic to the Navy’s mission.”
The purpose of this Chinese EMP upon an American ship, this report says, was twofold: 1.) A test of the EMP weapon itself that in a war against the Americans and would be used against their Naval Fleet and Marine Forces operating out of California and the west coast of the US, and 2.) A test of the response time for American retaliatory measures against any Chinese warship attacking the US and/or its interests in the Pacific.
The GRU further states that the timing of this attack was timed even more crucially due to China’s testing of America’s response time during a period when their President, as Commander In Chief of all US Military Forces, was out of the country, as Obama was as he was in India at the time.
The Americans response time of nearly 11 hours between the EMP attack on the Carnival Splendor and the US retaliatory strike, the GRU states, “virtually assured” that the Chinese submarine responsible for the attack escaped, but which they further point out may have been intended by the Americans so as not to escalate this crisis.
To the geo-political reason(s) for a Communist Chinese attack upon the Americans just days before the crucially important G-20 Summit in South Korea, which both President’s Hu and Obama will be attending, this report says was due to the United States, in essence, declaring total economic war upon the rest of the world by its printing of nearly $1 Trillion US Dollars in order to monetize its staggering debt and that China warned:
“If the United States can increase the volume of dollars and it can transmit inflation to other countries to lessen the pressure of debt, then it will bring about a catastrophic influence on the world.”
Typical of the United States propaganda media organs in telling their citizens about the true events relating to this crisis, it as if they have put themselves in total Cold War mode reminiscent of the 1940’s to the late 1980’s when they, likewise, failed to inform them of the many incidents or US Soldier deaths related to that conflict.
Most dangerous about the American people not being informed of the true and tragic state of our world today is their not being able to prepare for the much larger conflicts to come, especially in light of China’s Communists vowing that they won’t go down without a fight.  A fight, mind you, that now appears not only a sure thing, but imminent.
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[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal strongly disagrees with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth.  Due to our missions conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?”.]
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #93 on: November 16, 2010, 01:19:28 PM »
I'm not buying the "commercial jet optical illusion" story either. Maybe it's time for the tinfoil, but I'm not buying this explanation.

By the way, folks insist on calling the exhaust trail a "contrail". Contrails (condensation trails) happen in the lower atmosphere now? Which jets produce exhaust that will condense like that at low altitude? (Not rhetorical, I actually would like to know)

Alex Jones is a crank, and comparing folk's opinions/observations here to his conspiracy crap is beneath you, Rocketman.
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #94 on: November 16, 2010, 01:32:16 PM »
I'm not buying the "commercial jet optical illusion" story either. Maybe it's time for the tinfoil, but I'm not buying this explanation.

By the way, folks insist on calling the exhaust trail a "contrail". Contrails (condensation trails) happen in the lower atmosphere now?

Alex Jones is a crank, and comparing folk's opinions/observations here to his conspiracy crap is beneath you, Rocketman.

But you agree with Mr. Jones?

How do you feel about the picture from 24 hours later?
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« Reply #95 on: November 16, 2010, 01:42:15 PM »
Would a Tomahawk missle be used anti-submarine  ???
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #96 on: November 16, 2010, 01:47:51 PM »
Sorry, I edited my post... little different now than what you quoted, CNY. Again, sorry about that.

I did not even look at Alex Jones' info on this; I dismiss all his crap immediately. I will look at his take on this, if I must, though, for sake of this discussion. So, in that light, I cannot agree/disagree with A. Jones at this moment.

"How do you feel about the picture from 24 hours later?"  Apparently I have not seen such picture but, in any event, I don't understand the correlation. 24 hours later? How is that relevant?

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« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2010, 01:53:33 PM »
Sorry, I edited my post... little different now than what you quoted, CNY. Again, sorry about that.

I did not even look at Alex Jones' info on this; I dismiss all his crap immediately. I will look at his take on this, if I must, though, for sake of this discussion. So, in that light, I cannot agree/disagree with A. Jones at this moment.

"How do you feel about the picture from 24 hours later?"  Apparently I have not seen such picture but, in any event, I don't understand the correlation. 24 hours later? How is that relevant?



In the article in this post:

That is why it's called an "optical illusion".   If you think about it, it does make sense, given the perspectives involved.

Here is a link to the Fox News story from yesterday showing the original controversial image side-by-side with the webcam image of AW808's contrail the next day.  They are very similar contrails.


He explains how 24 hours later is relevant.

(For clarity, here's the link: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/10/blogger-solved-california-missile-mystery/  )
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2010, 02:03:25 PM »
Would a Tomahawk missle be used anti-submarine  ???

A Tomahawk against a submarine would be... an unusual role for that weapon, considering that there are much better alternatives.
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Re: Missile Launch off California Coast
« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2010, 02:06:49 PM »
In the article in this post:

He explains how 24 hours later is relevant.

(For clarity, here's the link: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/10/blogger-solved-california-missile-mystery/  )

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