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BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« on: December 20, 2010, 06:25:32 PM »
Interesting.  I thought they would clamp down on a wider range firearms since the reports weren't all that specific.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101220/ap_on_re_us/us_gun_sales_reporting_2
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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 06:47:24 PM »
Shrug...

Crime is always a socio-economic problem. I predict that narco-terror will get so bad we'll eventually revisit drug legalization. And we're just wasting time, and allowing needless death on both sides of the border, making evil men rich, to try and save people who are just going to smoke, shoot, snort, and swallow dope anyway.

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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 07:32:23 PM »
That must explain why there are so many in the financial gangster class...? 
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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 08:00:26 PM »
Well, it's time for the NRA's faith in harry reid to pay off.  He had better block this. 

Second, "high powered" rifles aren't used in to many crimes.  Hand guns are the norm here.  So why rifles?
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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 12:29:12 AM »
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Officials on both sides of the border have said weapons bought legally in the United States are routinely smuggled into the Mexico. The proposed reporting requirement would apply to sales of two or more semi-automatic guns more powerful than .22-caliber rifles that use a detachable magazine within a five-day period.

Looks like they are just going after the AR's, AK's and other sporter semi-auto rifles. I might be worried about the real high power rifles that they could sit across the border with and do some real damage to us with.

This thing could get much uglier in the next few years.

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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 04:13:55 AM »
Quote from: scanr on December 20, 2010, 08:00:26 PM
Well, it's time for the NRA's faith in harry reid to pay off.  He had better block this. 


Harry Reid has already been instrumental in making this the most pro-gun Congress in history.
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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 10:28:23 AM »
IMO, the real issue is deciding if whatever diplomatic/NAFTA ties we have with Mexico are sufficient that they can inconvenience/hurt us badly enough if we were to give an honest accounting or at least REASONABLE estimates of exactly how many guns in Mexico related to narco-terror/war are American straw-buy/smuggling, and how many had a legitimate transfer to Mexican military or law enforcement agencies and then wound up in criminal hands.

40mm grenades, hand grenades, and suppressors and other NFA stuff is obviously coming from their own mex.mil and LEA's.

OTOH, I've seen stuff like stacks of Draco-C AK-pistols that obviously did come from the American retail market.
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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 11:06:12 AM »
Makes me want to buy 2 stripped AR receivers a month just to piss 'em off.  :facepalm:

Problem is, I don't want a bunch of AR receivers. ;/

They don't have any call to come around harassing anyone that passes a NICS check.
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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 11:11:42 AM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on December 21, 2010, 11:06:12 AM
Makes me want to buy 2 stripped AR receivers a month just to piss 'em off.  :facepalm:

Problem is, I don't want a bunch of AR receivers. ;/


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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 11:55:45 PM »
Well, its for 180 days in the border states only.  Then we'll learn around day 150 or so that ZOMG!!!  They're buying them evil full auto grenade flame throwers from as far away as Maine and Alaska!!!!!  We'll just have to expand this rule and make it permanent. 

Oh, and put me down for an AR Receiver or three....
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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2010, 11:21:31 AM »
Where's the statutory authority for ATFE to do this?

This violates the GCA of '68 (as amended in '86) in several ways. :facepalm:
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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2010, 08:54:07 PM »
I do believe it will probably be derailed by legal action.
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Re: BATFE wants reports on Border Sales of "High Power" Rifles
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2010, 08:57:13 PM »
Quote from: MicroBalrog on December 23, 2010, 08:54:07 PM
I do believe it will probably be derailed by legal action.

I know I'm going to taunt them deliberately by buying 2 AR lowers, and giving them a ration of feces when/if they call.
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