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French onion soup
« on: January 08, 2011, 06:24:16 PM »
I got a hankering for some french onion soup. Never made it before, seems simple, found a few recipes but none list what type of onions should you use? Any ideas.
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 06:57:12 PM »
I myself typically use yellow sweet onions, such as Walla Walla Sweets, or whatever may be available in your locale.
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2011, 06:57:50 PM »
Strong Spanish onions are my favorite.  Vidallias look nice but do not add much in the way of flavor.  Red (purple) add color but somehow are always off-putting against the cheese.

But what do I know?  I make onion soup using a combination of veal & turkey stocks, as opposed to those purists who say to start with plain water and carry on from there.  I also do not drop a bouquet garni in, and have been known to have large chunks of leek floating in both the pot and the bowl.

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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 07:11:54 PM »
Here's the recipe I use, sort of.  I don't add cognac, usually use very dry red wine (or no wine), and I don't really measure the ingredients:

I just use yellow or white onions, whichever is cheaper.  It sometimes turns out a little too sweet, so I never use the big "sweet onions"

French Onion Soup
From The Way to Cook, Julia Child, Alfred Knopf, 1989.
ISBN 0-394-53264-3
 
3 Tbsp.     butter
1 Tbsp.     light olive oil or fresh peanut oil
8 cup       thinly sliced onions (2 1/2 pounds)
1/2 tsp. each salt and sugar (sugar helps the onions to brown)
2 Tbsp.    flour
2 1/2 qt   homemade beef stock, at least 2 cups of which should be hot
4 to 5 Tbsp. cognac, armagnac, or other good brandy
1 cup      dry white french vermouth

This is certainly one of the all-time favorites. The canned and packaged onion soups I've tried have been very good, and the only way to better them is for you to have your own beautiful beef stock.  However, bought onion soup will benefit from the flavor additions suggested here. TIMING: For most delicious results, you want a slow simmer for 2 3/4 to 3 hours.

A food processor with slicing blade or a hand slicer is useful for the onions; a heavy-bottomed 3-quart saucepan with cover for onion cooking and simmering.

Browning the onions - 40 minutes. Set the saucepan over moderate heat with the butter and oil; when the butter has melted, stir in the onions, cover the pan, and cook slowly until tender and translucent, about 10 minutes. Blend in the salt and sugar, raise heat to moderately high, and let the onions brown, stirring frequently until they are dark walnut color, 25 to 30 minutes.

Simmering the soup. Sprinkle in the flour and cook slowly, stirring, for another 3 to 4 minutes. Remove from heat, let cool a moment, then whisk in 2 cups of hot stock. When well blended, bring to the simmer, adding the rest of the stock, the Cognac or brandy, and the vermouth. Cover loosely, and simmer very slowly 1 1/2 hours, adding a little water if the liquid reduces too much. Correct seasoning.

May be prepared in advance; chill uncovered, then cover and refrigerate or freeze.

Serving. Serve the soup as it is, accompanying it with French bread and a bowl of grated Swiss or Parmesan cheese, or gratine it. Makes about 2 1/2 quarts, serves 6.
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2011, 07:36:16 PM »
That looks like a good recipe.

I like to take a handful of crusty dense bread or dark croutons, drop them in a french onion soup bowl (or a large ramekin), fill with soup, cover the top with a stiff cheese, and bake it good and hot until the cheese turns golden brown on top.  That's if the soup is hot.  If it's cold, lower the temperature in the oven.

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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2011, 07:40:19 PM »
When DD the Vegetarian is in town, I've made it before with vegetable bouillon cubes and water instead of the beef stock (and I leave out the salt because bouillon is salty.)  It's almost as good, and a lot less work, and she can eat it.
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2011, 01:07:55 AM »
And if you have leftover soup, use it as a base for a roast in a slow cooker.....makes the meat tender and juicy and delicious.
Tried my first slow cooker roast a month ago and had a cheap can of capmbells french onion soup, used it as the base, and loved it, I can only imagine that with a homemade soup it would be much better.

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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2011, 10:13:32 AM »
Leftover soup... hmmmm.... Please define.  I've never seen it! :lol:
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2011, 10:20:06 AM »
One bowl of French Onion soup please with a large chunk of crusty bread with lots of butter =D.............hold the cheese please. [barf]

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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2011, 01:02:28 PM »
1 packet Liptons French Onion Soup mix
1 handful garlic croutons
1 big-adz slab of meunster or mozzerella cheese

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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2011, 01:29:07 PM »
When I worked the onion harvest, I had access to virtually unlimited quantities of white process onions, extra strong so as to have plenty of flavor after dehydration/rehydration.  They made great onion soup.  (N.B.:  Rehydrate dried onions and garlic in plain water before adding them to anything salty or acidic.)

As a side note, onion butter is made by slowly reducing onions to a thick brown paste.  Start with enough fat, butter is best, to cover the bottom of a pot.  Add coarsely chopped onions to fill the pot only to the point you can still stir things.  Cook on low heat, stirring often, until done.  More onions may be added as things cook down.  Pack the resulting onion butter in clean jars and refrigerate.  Small quantities of onion butter are great in soups and gravies, wonderful spread on toast.  I have done onion butter twice.  It is a major chore to stir it enough, but the results are great.  I have been told that Himalayan mountaineers do a similar thing with flour cooked in and much more butter that produces an excellent instant soup paste.  Never tried it, but it sounds good.
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2011, 03:07:37 PM »
Onions make me farty.
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2011, 06:12:59 PM »
I don't understand this thread.

A certain multi-billion-dollar company has invested large sums of money on the best chefs available and the best market research available to find the best recipes and best prep methods to produce the best, most all-around-appealing onion soup available.

Among other soups.

And you guys want to try to best that?

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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2011, 06:45:13 PM »
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And you guys want to try to best that?
No but home made is always better. After all I know whats in it. No preservatives or other crap, and the biggie is no MSG. GF is allergic to the stuff.
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2011, 06:48:03 PM »
You cheese-eating surrender monkeys. Why is AMERICAN onion soup not good enough for you?   :mad::police:
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2011, 06:58:13 PM »
You cheese-eating surrender monkeys. Why is AMERICAN onion soup not good enough for you?   :mad::police:
What soup is American enough for you?
Manhattan clam chowder?  [barf]
New england clam chowder?  [barf]
That crap form Louisiana with fish heads in it? [barf]
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2011, 07:03:10 PM »
Beef barley baby!
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2011, 07:06:46 PM »
Beef barley baby!

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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2011, 09:09:59 PM »
Damn commas,,,  :facepalm:

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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2011, 09:13:17 PM »
What soup is American enough for you?
Manhattan clam chowder?  [barf]
New england clam chowder?  [barf]
That crap form Louisiana with fish heads in it? [barf]

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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2011, 09:16:15 PM »
Beef barley baby!
Did Beef barley 2 weeks ago, chicken last week.
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2011, 09:22:54 PM »
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Re: French onion soup
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2011, 06:38:37 AM »
Undiluted lentil soup + cocktail franks.  A mite salty, though.

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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2011, 06:50:15 AM »
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what type of onions should you use? Any ideas.

Well it is French Onion Soup. Get you some French Onions. :facepalm:
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2011, 07:39:30 AM »
Q: How do you tell a French Onion from an American Onion?

A: I'd tell you but then Laurent would be all over my ***!  :O

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