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garrettwc

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« on: March 23, 2006, 06:41:51 PM »
So what's it like? What did you have to learn in order to do it?

What's involved in doing it?

Do you make a few bucks at it, or is it a money pit?

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2006, 08:24:06 PM »
mine is at servicesix.org
I pay 4.95 a month for hosting.

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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2006, 03:59:34 AM »
Nice little site there dasmi.

Blackburn, you're only pointing out the tip of the iceberg, which I can already see. I want to know what's under the water. Tongue

Details man. What do I need to know, where can I go to learn it, etc?

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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2006, 04:15:30 AM »
I own a website, but it doesn't bring in money.  Thankfully, hosting is next to free (just got to pay for the domain registration).  Perk of the job.

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2006, 08:16:08 AM »
I have a website that is hosted on godaddy.com.  Inexpensive.  It's not a retail site.  Just a place to put information for members of a group.  Low hit level and as a result is a (relatively) inexpensive way to keep members informed.

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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2006, 08:22:53 AM »
I own a site too, its like $5 a month to host it.  I own the domain name but the site is for a poltical party, really basic and I'm a little behind in update. I host the site through hostingmetro.com

www.boonecountygop.org

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2006, 09:15:07 AM »
I have a site.  Runs off my personal computer, on my internet connection.  Costs me nothing.
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2006, 12:50:01 PM »
Assuming you don't already know how to build websites, I'd suggest you go to www.macromedia.com and buy the latest version of Dreamweaver.

Next, enroll in Macromedia's online university. For $400 or so a year, you'll have access to classes for everything from basic HTML to ASP, Coldfusion, SQL, and more. Classes are either self-taught, or there are also instructor-led classes. I was really impressed with the courses I took.

My site (www.gunshopfinder.com) is bringing in as much money as the time I have allows. If I could be on the phones eight hours a day, it would be bringing in much more. Today was a very good day.

The problem with my site, and something you may want to consider, is that it's very time-intensive. Making phone calls to get people to pay to renew means lots of "call me back next week" responses.

If I were doing it all over again, or if I were to start a new site (which I might do), I would come up with an idea for a site that would attract a lot of visitors (mine has over 200,000 a month) but also be appealing to advertisers. There are site owners out there who are making $10,000 or more a month from advertising.

Find the right advertisers is hard, so you may want to base your site's niche on a topic that advertisers will pay good money for. At the same time, though, your site has to be unique enough to attract visitors. It's a difficult thing to balance.

Some niches that do well are travel, computer-related stuff, and porn.

I'd also advise you to construct your site with search engines in mind. Before you build it, spend some time on webmasterworld.com. You can learn a lot. Almost all of my traffic comes from search engines. Roughly half comes from Google. That's free advertising if you do it right.

Give yourself a reasonable period of time before you expect to be making good money. I was delusional when I thought I could have my site start generating a liveable income within a year. It's been up for two years now, and I still have to do other work to pay the bills. I expect it's going to be at least another year, probably two, before I could quit my other jobs.

Hosting can be as little as $5 a month. I pay $500 a year, but that's because my site uses a SQL Server database.

If you're only in it for the money, another option is to have several small sites that rank well in the search engines, and have a lot of advertising on them. There are some webmasters who design what are basically useless sites, so that visitors look at them quickly, then click on the ads.

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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2006, 03:57:06 PM »
My site pays for itselfassuming, to be sure, I'm willing to donate my time.
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2006, 09:24:08 AM »
I'm in it both for the education, and the money. It doesn't need to be my primary source of income, unless it really takes off and it makes sense for me to leave my day job. I have no illusions about quick $$$, I am willing to put in the time if I get some benefit from it. I just don't want to find myself in a financial hole.

I know some basic html, and there are some good tutorials at w3schools.com.

So I need a host and a domain registered, then the work starts right?

When someone else does the hosting do I need to know server stuff like apache or do I just upload my content and they take care of the server side?

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2006, 10:00:26 AM »
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When someone else does the hosting do I need to know server stuff like apache or do I just upload my content and they take care of the server side?
With godaddy.com I write my stuff in html and upload using FTP (File Transfer Protocol).

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2006, 08:00:43 AM »
Wow, Blackburn. What a generous offer.

Are you sure you know what you're getting yourself into? Tongue

I guess I need to get to work on some content so I actually have something to put up there.

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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2006, 01:05:26 PM »
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It's pretty easy to work on plain html files on your own computer- just edit in notepad and open them with IE or firefox when saved. Course, you can get into more easy to use ways of design like coldfusion, frontpage, and whatnot.

I suggest checking out the tutorials on webmonkey.com, they're really great and if you know what you want to do, you can find how to do it.
Here's a site with some fairly simple instructions too
http://www.annabella.net/html.html

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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2006, 05:35:37 PM »
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It's pretty easy to work on plain html files on your own computer- just edit in notepad and open them with IE or firefox when saved.
Yup. That's how I do it. I also have a couple of editors that I downloaded off the 'net that work pretty good. My html is a little rusty, but it shouldn't take me long to get back up to speed. Then I need to learn some of the script stuff.

I have been using http://www.w3schools.com for a reference. It covers a lot of different things. I'll check out webmonkey and annabella.net and see what they offer as well.

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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2006, 03:39:02 AM »
OK, some follow up questions.

When I get a host, am I paying for their internet connection and I supply my own server hardware, or am I renting space on their servers.

I checked out Mamba/Joomla. Very interesting stuff. One question though. Is it client side installed on my machine or installed on the server? It looks to be Linux only. It says it requires MySQL, PHP, and Apache. Sounds like I will need to learn those too.

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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2006, 11:57:48 AM »
I knew what Apache and MySQL were. I just didn't know if I had to administer them or if the host did. Does the host also install the Joomla and/or cPanel or do I install with my content when I upload my site?

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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2006, 07:00:10 PM »
cool, thanks.

I've been cruising some of the webmaster sites trying to pick up on stuff. I think I'm going to enjoy this web stuff.