Any wonder I post here rather than at THR (no offense Oleg!)

[seeker_two]

I'm still holding to the position that, whatever gun you take, you should get a Bond Arms .410 derringer for pocket carry.

1. .410 shotshells are more effective than any pistol shotshells.

2.  It's a good reason to buy another gun...always a good thing.  

[Boomhauer]

I don't know if he's still a member...but for a while one f***tard member (i.e., worse than Judge loving mouthbreathing idiots) of THR.org was talking about how he was going to take his AK Draco pistol, paint the muzzle orange like an airsoft gun (so that nobody would shoot him), and take it hiking with him (open carry) in a TN state park. (his ass did get arrested).

This is the f***tard in question: http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=68661

This is his epic thread of fail: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=492845


The Judge is an utterly useless piece of *expletive deleted*it.

[Perd Hapley]

You know that Glocks kaboom, right? I'd sell those, and buy a good tactical wheelbarrow to carry your kit.

And bring the Nagant.

[Viking]

I don't know if he's still a member...but for a while one f***tard member (i.e., worse than Judge loving mouthbreathing idiots) of THR.org was talking about how he was going to take his AK Draco pistol, paint the muzzle orange like an airsoft gun (so that nobody would shoot him), and take it hiking with him (open carry) in a TN state park. (his ass did get arrested).

This is the f***tard in question: http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=68661

This is his epic thread of fail: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=492845


The Judge is an utterly useless piece of *expletive deleted*.

I'd like to read about that...

[Angel Eyes]

You know that Glocks kaboom, right?

They also shoot DEA agents in the foot.

[Boomhauer]

I'd like to read about that...

Did a lookback and maybe I misspoke, he did get "detained" for a while. Either way, he's still a dumbass...

[Lee]

This about the only site I visit these days...period.  It's a good place and I appreciate Oleg's efforts in starting it up and maintaining it.

[lee n. field]

I don't know if he's still a member...but for a while one f***tard member (i.e., worse than Judge loving mouthbreathing idiots) of THR.org was talking about how he was going to take his AK Draco pistol

The Judge is an utterly useless piece of *expletive deleted*.

AK pistols for me, rank, if anything, below a Judge.  A buddy of mine has one, likes it, and almost put a hole through his foot with one.

, paint the muzzle orange like an airsoft gun (so that nobody would shoot him), and take it hiking with him (open carry) in a TN state park. (his ass did get arrested).

This is the f***tard in question: http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=68661

Way higher member number than me.  <shrug>.

[mtnbkr]

I'm still holding to the position that, whatever gun you take, you should get a Bond Arms .410 derringer for pocket carry.

1. .410 shotshells are more effective than any pistol shotshells.

So is a 3 bore but it doesn't make pistol shotshells useless.

I shot a 4' rattler from 4' away with a 38special shotshell out of a 4" GP100.  It nearly took his head off and immediately put an end to his life.  Can't get much more effective than that.

Chris

[Chuck Dye]

Ah, the experts!  Not always right, NEVER in doubt!

Even here, any post is like a question to a politician, just a pause to catch the breath before moving on to the next (non sequitor) talking point.  My "favorite" is the "everyone knows" response from the guy who has never even come close to the experience I seek to benefit from, but has read every issue of every gun rag and knows for sure.

My own learning experience came with these:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=366162

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295989

[lee n. field]

I recently started a thread over at THR in the handgun section.  Long story short, I asked members which gun of a list of three guns I already own - Glock 19, Glock 21, Smith 686

Of those, if it were me, and limited to the specified choices, G21 first, Smith loaded with .357 second.  Forget the G19 if you're worried about bear.

I recollect a longish thread, on THR or TFL, by a guy who wanted to carry his Glock 19 for bear defense.  

I mentioned I just wanted one for SHTF situations.  My reason for the debate was in my own mind, deciding if a revolver (no mags needed, just ammo) or an autoloader made more sense.

Some sample responses I got?  "Taurus Public Defender aka the Judge in .410. Perfect for snakes and such without worry of 'zinging' rounds out." 
"Buy a good serios caliber autoloader(not a 22) and keep a couple spare mags on hand, and buy one of thoose nagant revolvers as a back up, i dont think it is even possible to make a nagant revolver fail to fire."
"22 revolver. Take your pick of action, barrel length, etc."
Other than a few posts with some good advice, the rest was a heated debate about the durability of autos vs. revolvers, with one poster stating that you have to clean an auto several times a day in a dirty environment to keep it functioning.
Meanwhile, I'll just keep it in mind whenever I have a gun question...come here first.

It's the nature of the Interwebz.  A vast sewer of misinformation, inhabited by trolls.

[seeker_two]

So is a 3 bore but it doesn't make pistol shotshells useless.

I shot a 4' rattler from 4' away with a 38special shotshell out of a 4" GP100.  It nearly took his head off and immediately put an end to his life.  Can't get much more effective than that.

Chris

Yeah....but can you argue with #2?..... 

[mtnbkr]

Yeah....but can you argue with #2?..... 

no, but you can at least make it a useful gun.

Chris

[seeker_two]

no, but you can at least make it a useful gun.

Chris

Where's the fun in that?......besides, if you wanted useful guns, you wouldn't have bought two Glocks......



.....are we gettin' that THR vibe, yet?..... 

[mtnbkr]

.....are we gettin' that THR vibe, yet?..... 

LOL!

Chris

[Boomhauer]

AK pistols for me, rank, if anything, below a Judge.  A buddy of mine has one, likes it, and almost put a hole through his foot with one.

The ONE redeeming quality of AK pistols is SBRing them. That's it.

[AJ Dual]

The ONE redeeming quality of AK pistols is SBRing them. That's it.

They make good loudenboomer range toys as-is.  

A Draco AK pistol is probably one of the cheapest and easiest ways to get into NFA. $200 to the treasury, a 4-6 month wait, and $120 give or take for an ACE folder stock. Putting a Ruger Charger into a Butler Creek folder is probably the other.

And 7.62x39 loses a lot less from a short barrel than 5.56/.223 does.

I don't know if he's still a member...but for a while one f***tard member (i.e., worse than Judge loving mouthbreathing idiots) of THR.org was talking about how he was going to take his AK Draco pistol, paint the muzzle orange like an airsoft gun (so that nobody would shoot him), and take it hiking with him (open carry) in a TN state park. (his ass did get arrested).

This is the f***tard in question: http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=68661

This is his epic thread of fail: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=492845


The Judge is an utterly useless piece of *expletive deleted*.

That guy was on GlockTalk and ar-15.com too. Same results. Banhammer.

[Pharmacology]

Tennessee has given him the B&HAMMER  in real life, too :D

http://lonelymachines.org/tag/kwikrnu/

[Boomhauer]

Tennessee has given him the B&HAMMER  in real life, too :D

http://lonelymachines.org/tag/kwikrnu/

I'll be the first person to decry oppressive government...but damn did that guy ever deserve it for being both A) Dumb as a bag of hammers and B) Crazy as a shithouse rat. I seriously question his mental stability and thought process.

I do not tolerate idiots lightly...

[BlueStarLizzard]

 

Dad enjoys his judge and his drako.

They're both pulled out as dog walking guns (he's on privet property, so he can open carry all he wants)

We do have copperhead issues around here so the judge will most likely actually come in handy.

[gunsmith]

another vote for the G21, don't worry about DEA agents, they only have a problem with the "fortay"

[roo_ster]

They also shoot DEA agents in the foot.

Well, I'd consider that a feature, not a bug.

[lee n. field]

The ONE redeeming quality of AK pistols is SBRing them. That's it.

I'd feel a lot better about them if that were possible in this state.

[T.O.M.]

Folks, thanks for the laughs and the advice.  Since you didn't all see this as an opportunity to advise me to buy a BlasTech 500.

I shoot both the 21 and the 686 equally well, maybe a bit of an edge to the 686, but I've always shot revolvers a bit better than autos.  Just something about me and my hands.  What it came down to for me was trying to decide which was a better choice for the hike as a SHTF/personal defense tool.  This is the Daniel Boone National Forest in Kentucky.  I'm not really wanting a gun in case a bear or snake wants to get me.  I'm wanting a gun on teh hike for the same reason I keep one by the bed, and CCW during the day.  The whole reason I'm debating this is (1) in my mind, I've always thought of the revolver as a better survival handgun, since you don't needs mags to make it work...just ammo, and (2) Glocks are ugly and indestructable, so I wouldn't worry in the least about banging it around in the woods for a week.

Either way, I'm seriously considering the Safepacker hoster system, which to me seems ideal for an outdoor adventure.

Thanks guys.

[Harold Tuttle]

i ran out of motivation for reading and posting about firearms in 2005