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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2011, 01:38:43 PM »
Maybe what Bachmann is referring to is the false and exploitive fearmongering that seems to be the staple of so many Democrat administrations...?

I highlighted the words that made me chuckle because of the irony.  I honestly thought everybody here would have picked up on the error in her quote.

Republican Ford was in office during the 1976 swine flu outbreak.

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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2011, 03:00:01 PM »
Not that I'm rooting for Trump or anything, but he is certainly not a re-tread. He doesn't even seem to have been a Republican until a few months ago.

Agreed. He's really more like Schwartzenegger. If he's elected it'll be because of the mindless morons that watch The Apprentice rather than where he stands on issues and the direction he wants to take the country.

I don't know much at all about Herman Cain, but it appears that his only wart is his close association with the Feral Reserve. As much Ron Paul has tried to expose the evil of this organization, it appears no one really cares so it probablly won't be a wart with the majority of voters.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2011, 03:32:41 PM »
Trump can continue to serve a valuable service with his ability to demand media coverage of whatever hobby horse he happens to be riding at the time.  He rode Obama birth certificate until Obama "gave in", something that would not have happened had spinelessrepublicans been left to their own wiles.  Obama had his revenge when he asked for network time at an unprecedented hour . . . . . which just happened to the be climax and conclusion to Trumps reality TV show. 

If Trump wants to continue in the service of America he needs to turn his media guns to the matter of domestic energy production.  Force Obama to answer questions as to why we are shutting down domestic energy production.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2011, 09:27:30 PM »

"If Trump wants to continue in the service of America he needs to turn his media guns to the matter of domestic energy production.  Force Obama to answer questions as to why we are shutting down domestic energy production."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2011, 10:00:42 PM »
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I highlighted the words that made me chuckle because of the irony.  I honestly thought everybody here would have picked up on the error in her quote.

Republican Ford was in office during the 1976 swine flu outbreak.

Gigabuist, I was not speaking specifically to Bachmann's citation, I was talking about a general trend over time.  Of course, both parties seem to live by fear, don't they?
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2011, 10:05:54 PM »
Clowns to the left of us, jokers to the right, here we are, stuck in the middle of an Obama nightmare.  (Forgive the borrowing)

Trump is all over the place and over the top, but that doesn't mean all of his questions are invalid ones or that he serves no purpose.  His purpose is to shatter the porcelain pretender, unmask the great impostor. 
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2011, 04:27:29 PM »
Unfortunately true.   ;)

Any leader who would do what needs to be done would never be elected because he/she would cut off too many people's government gravy train.

I'm more and more convinced of this.

We're going to fall.

It won't be ravaging hordes of MZB's and cookie-cutter neighborhoods turned into impromptu village compounds... and it won't involve the die-off of 75% of the population... but we WILL get so poor as a nation that our currency will be worth 10% of what it currently is worth.  Buying groceries for a family with a $50k/year income will be challenging.  People will set AC thermostats to 90 degrees instead of 75.  Heaters will go to 60 or 55, sweaters will be worn indoors and extra blankets added to beds.  Fewer homes with cable/satellite.  Widescreen TV's sit unused because of electric draw and heat generated by them, and less incentive to watch since there are fewer cable purchasers.  Neighbors will split the cost of internet access with each other via wireless tech. 

Poor people on welfare will be compelled at the point of starvation and necessity's sword to get off their azzes and find ANY job, and minimum wage will be ignored as well as under the table hiring practices.

It'll be damned hard for anyone making less than $50k/household to scrape by, a dramatic change in lifestyle to anyone making 50-100k, and a major lifestyle adjustment to those making less than a million a year.

And it'll be that way for a few years. 

There is no dodging it, because anyone who will run on a platform to fix this will not get elected.  It's falling.  The only thing left to do is ride it out with food, friends, and common purpose.  Any food you buy now and set back against the future will outperform your stock investments if measured against inflation, when you need food in 6 months to a year.

Food, friends and common purpose.  Work to take charge of your grassroots governmental structures.  GOP/Dem legislative district committees.  City Council.  School boards.  Heck, PTO groups.  County board of supervisors.  Maybe state legislature.

This will be an extremely painful re-education of the American population, courtesy of the policies of the Worst Generation and their decision to borrow debt against my life and that of my unborn and unconceived children. 

However, it is my sincere hope that we emerge from it having learned the cost of Socialism.  If not, then it may be time for other actions. [ar15]   :'(



ETA:  My picks are a pair of RINOs that are going to pay lip service to Ron Paul and the R3volution movement, perhaps promise to make Paul the head of the Fed Reserve and then "discover" dirt on him that makes such an appointment rescind-able.  Probably Mitt Romney for prez, not sure who for VP.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2011, 06:44:13 PM »
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However, it is my sincere hope that we emerge from it having learned the cost of Socialism.

Unfortunately I think the lesson "learned" is going to be to go with total socialism next time.

Larry Correia pretty much sums up what I fear. http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/the-rentendollar-a-conspiracy-theory-or-please-tell-me-where-im-wrong/

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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2011, 10:25:43 PM »
Huckabee won't be on the ticket.  He made it official today that he is not running.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2011, 11:04:58 PM »
Huckabee won't be on the ticket.  He made it official today that he is not running.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2011, 12:08:51 AM »
Huckabee won't be on the ticket.  He made it official today that he is not running.
Story on FoxNews

Thank the gods..

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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2011, 02:01:07 AM »
Considering that I just got an object lesson in "don't discount the guy who files on the last possible day,"  I'm holding out hope for someone both principled and electable to show up.


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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2011, 02:44:22 AM »
Unfortunately I think the lesson "learned" is going to be to go with total socialism next time.

Larry Correia pretty much sums up what I fear. http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/the-rentendollar-a-conspiracy-theory-or-please-tell-me-where-im-wrong/




I read your link.   Exactly which currency would we have hyper-inflation against?    In the absence of the US dollar there wouldn't be any value to any currency.   In fact it's impossible to sell off all your dollars (it's 2/3rd of the world currency's assets)

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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2011, 03:14:41 AM »
Against actual products and goods. Inflation has little to do with the value of the dollar against a foreign currency, and mostly to do with its value against actual goods and labor.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2011, 06:01:31 AM »
Against actual products and goods. Inflation has little to do with the value of the dollar against a foreign currency, and mostly to do with its value against actual goods and labor.


I was referring to his specific link.   Of course the price of most things are going up.   Once the 3rd world started eating meat and driving cars that was kind of inevitable.

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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2011, 06:48:20 AM »

I was referring to his specific link.   Of course the price of most things are going up.   Once the 3rd world started eating meat and driving cars that was kind of inevitable.

That makes no sense.

The price of food was going down up, related to wages, until very recently. Increased consumption does not always lead to increased prices, as long as production continues to increase.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2011, 10:17:03 AM »
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The price of food was going down up, related to wages, until very recently.

Tell that to my wife who buy the groceries...   ;/
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2011, 01:10:33 PM »
Thank the gods..

Why?  Huckabee is a pretty good person .... for a politician, that is.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2011, 03:10:26 PM »
Why?  Huckabee is a pretty good person .... for a politician, that is.

Bible thumping populist.  Thanks but no thanks,  even if he's a "good person"

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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2011, 04:21:40 PM »
If online polls are to be believed, the Republican with the best chance of beating Obama is Ron Paul
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2011, 04:26:07 PM »
If online polls are to be believed, the Republican with the best chance of beating Obama is Ron Paul

The GOP is not capable of electing Ron Paul.

Ron Paul's campaign staff are not capable of helping him be elected.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2011, 04:40:38 PM »
Bible thumping populist.  Thanks but no thanks,  even if he's a "good person"

Examples, please. I'm not sure what you consider "bible-thumping."

FTR, I'm neutral on Huckabee. Don't know enough about him.
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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2011, 05:26:11 PM »
To win the 2012 GOP nomination, you need an huge organization in place and a buttload of money.    The only person who fits that description is Romney.   The first primary is after all a little over 8 months away.   

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Re: GOP 2012 ticket prediction
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2011, 08:26:41 PM »
To win the 2012 GOP nomination, you need an huge organization in place and a buttload of money.    The only person who fits that description is Romney.   The first primary is after all a little over 8 months away.   

That certainly helps at this stage, but there's plenty personally wealthy potential candidates, plus those with plenty of contact that can raise money quickly.  Romney is a first-class RINO that will excite people about as much as Bob Dole or John McCain.  Which is to say, not at all.  If he's the GOP nominee we can kiss any chance of repealing O-care goodbye.  We're nearly financially sunk as a country anyway, and with that anchor pulling us further over the collapse will just come that much faster and more harshly.

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