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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #175 on: July 05, 2011, 06:02:52 PM »
Oh, that's wonderful. I'm disappointed with Eugene, though. That's probably the first column he's written where he didn't use a racism angle and with concealed carry at that, a topic that just begs for the racism label.

This is great:

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More often than not, people would face more danger of having the weapon taken and used against them during an unexpected encounter with a criminal.

IRRC, it was Tamara who said, "if it's that easy to take a gun from someone, I'll just take my gun back."

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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #176 on: July 05, 2011, 06:39:47 PM »
IRRC, it was Tamara who said, "if it's that easy to take a gun from someone, I'll just take my gun back."

Yeah, that's why I don't bother carrying. I'll just take whatever weapon my enemy is trying to use.
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #177 on: July 05, 2011, 06:55:50 PM »
Eugene Kane's recent butthurt over passage of CCW was priceless. He was just throwing everything against the wall (that he has left) and seeing what might stick. http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/124391814.html


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If you talk to officers - [blah-blah]

For cops, a concealed carry law turns every traffic stop, public event or encounter with an angry civilian into a nerve-racking test to figure out who might be packing heat and who isn't.

Bwahahaha! If you talk to officers, you'll find out that this was already true.
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #178 on: July 05, 2011, 07:04:10 PM »
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Bwahahaha! If you talk to officers, you'll find out that this was already true.

Nah, they just like to stand slightly behind you when you're in your car to give you a sore neck while they write a ticket.

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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #179 on: July 05, 2011, 08:31:58 PM »
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #180 on: July 05, 2011, 09:58:36 PM »
Oh, that's wonderful. I'm disappointed with Eugene, though. That's probably the first column he's written where he didn't use a racism angle and with concealed carry at that, a topic that just begs for the racism label.

This is great:

IRRC, it was Tamara who said, "if it's that easy to take a gun from someone, I'll just take my gun back."

It's there. He WANTS to say: "CCW was passed so nervous white people can shoot black ones..." but he's out of ammo and can't work it in.
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #181 on: July 06, 2011, 04:32:41 PM »
Oops!

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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #182 on: July 06, 2011, 04:53:04 PM »
In light of recent trends, if you live in the Milwaukee metro area, I'd suggest going with a higher capacity magazine fed semi-automatic.  =(
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #183 on: July 06, 2011, 05:43:57 PM »
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In light of recent trends, if you live in the Milwaukee metro area, I'd suggest going with a higher capacity magazine fed semi-automatic.

I work in that area. I don't go to work without a carbine in the trunk.
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #184 on: July 06, 2011, 06:13:08 PM »
I work in that area. I don't go to work without a carbine in the trunk.

Not even close to Milwaukee's north side... yet, however central and eastern West Allis is getting bad too. I've found out through some real estate friends that West Allis has the most aggressive rent assistance program in SE WI.  =(

Just the other week, around 9:30 at night, we had a drunk trying to force his way into the house because he believed "Our (imaginary) 17 year old son stole his beer." Fortunately he was an older small wiry guy, and while you can't COUNT on a drunk being passive (I'm sure they teach cops to be careful) that's the kind of drunk he was.

He actually slipped right past me as I was bent over in the gap between the house and our temporary above ground vinyl pool's pumps and hoses. And I stood up to see him trying to push past Mrs. Dual into our back door.  He had to invade a very private 6' high privacy fenced in back yard with a gate to get where he was.

Best guess is he was making a drunken beer run to one of the convenience stores 2 blocks away on a busier street corner, some teen offered to "help carry his case of beer home" then just ran off with it. We had just pulled in from some late errands, and we were the only lights/activity he saw as he staggered down the street.

Mrs. Dual was screaming at him, he was claiming he wasn't drunk, and recited the alphabet, skipping "LMNOP" entirely in the process of trying to prove it.  I was dialing 911 and giving a description when he finally started staggering off down the street. If it weren't for the attempted forced entry, I'd have let it go, so I followed him from a safe distance, about 25 yards behind him, keeping the West Allis Po-po with a running commentary on his location. He started dodging between houses right when the squads rolled up on me, and had to have him pointed out to them.

In the past ten years we've been there, we've had kids place an aluminum/lye soda bottle bomb on our enclosed front porch. One car break-in. A brick and eggs thrown through a car's rear windshield during a multi-block vandalism spree. Verbally abusive teens urinating on my fence and garage, and now the drunk guy trying to get into our house.

And, barring any major economic disruptions, it's probably going to be about 5-7 years before we can afford to move further west into the Waukesha County burbs.  =|
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #185 on: July 06, 2011, 06:55:03 PM »
AJ with the non-mob mob beatings over the weekend, may I suggest belt-fed's wherever you go in Milwaukee? I read the JS article, and had to laugh when the responding cops essentially said, "what mobs?"

GW98, I have just one distributor who handles Bianchi, and they don't have that model. Holsters are a real pain, because there's a gazillion sizes and models and colors. I'd be surprised if anyone carries all of Bianchi, or any other big holster maker.

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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #186 on: July 06, 2011, 10:43:33 PM »
That's fine, ML.

I had to at least ask, and throw business to you first.
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #187 on: July 06, 2011, 11:19:55 PM »
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And, barring any major economic disruptions, it's probably going to be about 5-7 years before we can afford to move further west into the Waukesha County burbs
I hear that Brookfield/New Berlin and possibly a few other areas have the citizens fighting 'rent assisted' apartment complexes being put up by shady contactors too right now and are losing the battles. :mad:
You ought to look 20 miles north- I feel perfectly safe walking into Walmart at 11:00 pm on any given night, and even run into my state Senator a few times there during that time of night =D
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #188 on: July 06, 2011, 11:41:14 PM »
That's fine, ML.

I had to at least ask, and throw business to you first.

Just Google that model number and see what comes up.






















































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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #189 on: July 07, 2011, 12:36:57 AM »
AJ with the non-mob mob beatings over the weekend, may I suggest belt-fed's wherever you go in Milwaukee? I read the JS article, and had to laugh when the responding cops essentially said, "what mobs?"

Well, you may recall my shoulder holster concealment rig I made out of Kydex for my Kel-Tec Sub9 folding carbine, with provision for a MOLLE pouch holding 3 32 round magazines on the other side. Unfortunately, the WI CCW statute is specific to handguns.  =(

However, my Draco AK pistol runs like a top. I was going to get my feet wet with NFA and SBR it, however now I'm not so sure I want to do that.  ;)
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #190 on: July 07, 2011, 12:46:54 AM »
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Just Google that model number and see what comes up.

Very funny. Give Bing a try. ;)

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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #191 on: July 07, 2011, 09:08:34 AM »
I hear that Brookfield/New Berlin and possibly a few other areas have the citizens fighting 'rent assisted' apartment complexes being put up by shady contactors too right now and are losing the battles. :mad:
You ought to look 20 miles north- I feel perfectly safe walking into Walmart at 11:00 pm on any given night, and even run into my state Senator a few times there during that time of night =D

Yeah, it's New Berlin. Public pressure got the project stopped. And the mayor went on a rant about his racist constituents.  ;/

Now the Obama admin is working to sue the city in federal court to force it to completion.
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #192 on: July 07, 2011, 09:29:27 AM »
That's fine, ML.

I had to at least ask, and throw business to you first.

In case you're still looking, I got mine through Midway. 
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #193 on: July 07, 2011, 11:13:33 PM »
I had a little bit of a lift today. Someone from the NRA called to invite me to the by-invitation-only signing ceremony, and then a party afterwards.

It would have been nice to have been called a week ago, but I still couldn't have gone.

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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #194 on: July 07, 2011, 11:14:33 PM »
Signing the WI carry bill? Sweet.
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #195 on: July 07, 2011, 11:36:58 PM »
I had a little bit of a lift today. Someone from the NRA called to invite me to the by-invitation-only signing ceremony, and then a party afterwards.

It would have been nice to have been called a week ago, but I still couldn't have gone.

I'm really glad they at least thought of you. That was very nice of them.
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #197 on: August 12, 2011, 01:33:39 PM »
However, my Draco AK pistol runs like a top.

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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #198 on: August 12, 2011, 08:03:58 PM »
No list yet of what permits they'll recognize, but it sounds like any permit that does a background check will fly, so Non-Resident permits will work as long as there is a background check.

If you are a WI resident and have a Utah/Florida etc. permit, those permit(s) will not be valid for you in WI. 

They also have to enter into agreements with other states to have the WI permit recognized in those states. So that list is TBD.


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Re: Pretzel logic on CCW in Wisconsin
« Reply #199 on: August 12, 2011, 08:06:23 PM »
Well that WI permit is good in AK and AZ right now.

Or will be when they issue it.

For now your library card authorizes carry in AK and AZ. 

Never mind.

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