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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 08:43:08 AM »
Love it! And especially that it's the girl who suggests the need for defensive weaponry!
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 09:42:31 AM »
It's AJ's wife!

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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 12:27:23 PM »
Sadly no.

Mrs. Dual is the sort who'd bitch and roll her eyes and complain about any preps up to one second before SHTF, then do a 180 and be a bundle of tears, panic, and recriminations about anything we lacked one second after.
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 12:39:15 PM »
Yeah, well you should have been around Mrs. Monkeyleg in the days after the tornadoes hit here in AL in April. We were without power for several days, and it was constant complaining about having to eat cold canned food or put things on the grill (this from someone who harangues on me all the time because I don't grill).

I don't think she'd fare well in a SHTF situation. Alice she is not.


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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 12:40:40 PM »
Well I now feel much better about my wife, thanks guys.
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 01:45:50 PM »
Well I now feel much better about my wife, thanks guys.

Same here
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 01:55:57 PM »
this from someone who harangues on me all the time because I don't grill

I thought I was the only one who'd admit to neglecting that manly art.
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2011, 02:22:26 PM »
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I thought I was the only one who'd admit to neglecting that manly art.

If I want chunks of carbon, I'll just scrape the bottom of the oven. ;)

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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2011, 03:41:52 PM »
Chunks of carbon?  You're doin' it wrong.  ;)
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 05:30:50 PM »
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You're doin' it wrong.

You shouldn't feed me straight lines.

In deference to the sensibilities of our newest member, though, I won't take the bait. ;)

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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 06:27:04 PM »
AJ & Monkeyleg, hate to hear that and don't really understand it. I'm always the one hoping for the really bad storms (as long as they don't involve loss of life) just for the adventure. Then again, some of my favorite reading is TEOTWAWKI novels. Maybe I need to do more extreme sports so I get more adventure in every day life.

You shouldn't feed me straight lines.

In deference to the sensibilities of our newest member, though, I won't take the bait. ;)

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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2011, 06:37:46 PM »
derstand it. I'm always the one hoping for the really bad storms (as long as they don't involve loss of life) just for the adventure.

Could be the NY suburb thing, but my family seems to be the only one about well provisioned and prepared for run of the mill disasters.  Way back when there was a blizzard that knocked out power in the region for two weeks we had a gas generator taking care of us and being members of the local firehouse my brothers and I enjoyed their generator by playing GoldenEye on the lounge big screen with a nintendo 64. 

Luckily, we are VERY well provisioned with defensive supplies.   =D
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2011, 07:00:37 PM »
Mrs. Smith, we just had major tornadoes in the south in April. Hundreds of people killed just in Alabama, and hundreds of thousands homeless. There were over a million homes without electricity. Ours went on Wednesday afternoon and we didn't get power until Saturday night. That only lasted a few hours. We finally had full power on Sunday night.

Doing everything by flashlight and candle is a drag. Having to either eat cold food or heat something on the grill by flashlight is a drag. No restaurants, no food stores, no pharmacies...it's a drag.

I had to try to keep taking orders, but there was no internet connection (obviously). I had to plug my laptop into the power outlet in my car, plug the laptop into my Blackberry to use as a modem, then drive around the area trying to find a cell signal. That wasn't easy because the cell towers were knocked out.

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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2011, 08:21:04 PM »
Having to either eat cold food or heat something on the grill by flashlight is a drag.

http://jwbasecamp.com/Articles/SuperCat/index.html

Dead simple, made from trash in a matter of minutes, and a lot more pleasant than firing up the grill after a summer storm knocks out power in hot weather.  Couple ounces of denatured alcohol will boil a soup can full of water in 6-7 minutes, so a gallon can will last for a week or more depending on how much you cook.  I can have it going in the garage in less than two minutes and hot water or soup in less than 10 minutes altogether.

The coffee-can wind screen for it makes it a lot more efficient and easier to deal with too.  Use the smallest can that will fit your largest cooking container for best heat retention.  I sized mine based on the ~20oz soup cans with good results.

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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2011, 09:36:30 PM »
^ Jeeze, I haven't seen a metal coffee can in years.  Do the plastic ones work OK for wind-shields?

I've punched holes in the sides of steel cans, top and bottom, with a beer can opener to make a stove.  Never had to actually use it, just for the excercise.  Remove one end, place a Sterno or other alcohol container on a flat surface, place the punched-out can over the flame, and put your food container on top of that.

But:  I'd rather use my Coleman two-burner stove with my propane tanks.  Can't pack it around, strictly for in-situ use, but then again, as crippled up as I am, I ain't going to be packing anything anywhere.

Also, I keep a bunch of these in my emergency cupboard:



Lightweight (all-platic container), keep unrefrigerated for a significant portion of forever, readily available in grocery stores (as opposed to milsurp outlets) and are edible if not delightful just opened up and eaten cold.  (Should the extreme need arise.)

And cheaper than MREs. ("Meal, Ready to Eat")

Many other meals besides spaghetti available.

ETA for MrsSmith  and other boating folks:  Just tested one for flotation.  They float in cool tap water, ought to float in sea water pretty good, but can't test that without a 1000 mile trip. :)

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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2011, 09:48:19 PM »
Metal cans are still pretty common. I think it's mainly Folger's and Maxwell House that use plastic.
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2011, 10:06:03 PM »
Metal cans are still pretty common. I think it's mainly Folger's and Maxwell House that use plastic.

All my coffee comes in metal cans.  I use the empty one for shooting targets.   =)
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2011, 10:09:28 PM »
All my coffee comes in metal cans.  I use the empty one for shooting targets.   =)

You drink Dana Brown's, don't you?  =)
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2011, 10:21:03 PM »
You drink Dana Brown's, don't you?  =)

No, I think it's "Western Family" generic or something like that...

At least it's not that expensive Indonesian stuff that they pick out of crap.  [barf]
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2011, 01:36:00 AM »
Huh.  Maybe I just wasn't wearing my metal coffee can glasses.
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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2011, 01:56:33 AM »
Metal cans are still pretty common. I think it's mainly Folger's and Maxwell House that use plastic.

I used whatever was $2 at WalMart, and dumped the coffee into a nearly empty plastic Folgers can.

The 3oz cat food can for the stove itself was quickly emptied by our two specialists, and a $1.98 hole punch worked fine for making the holes.  Old bicycle spokes cut to length form the stove platform inside the coffee can.  The whole thing including an empty soup can as a pot, a small pair of pliers to lift the pot and a small bottle with 2-3 uses worth of alcohol will nest inside the coffee can.

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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2011, 02:00:30 AM »
Lightweight (all-platic container), keep unrefrigerated for a significant portion of forever, readily available in grocery stores (as opposed to milsurp outlets) and are edible if not delightful just opened up and eaten cold.  (Should the extreme need arise.)

Some of them seem way too heavy on sodium and/or MSG.  You can live on 'em, but you're not doing your body any favors.  I generally prefer to carry ramen noodles for "bulk food," since I can decide how much of the flavor packet goes in based on how much sodium my body thinks it needs at the moment.

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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2011, 08:36:35 AM »
^ "Some of them seem way too heavy on sodium and/or MSG."

Agree on that.  But like using your pistol to get to your shotgun, you use Compleats to get to the restaurant.



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Re: Dilbert among us
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2011, 09:05:56 AM »
Wifey mcmoneybags was giving me a hard time because she isn't sure we have enough batteries if there's a hurricane.   :laugh:

She welcomes my paranoia about things like that, but any mention of long term prepping gets me the  ;/
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