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« on: April 28, 2006, 02:09:24 PM »
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Limbaugh Arrested in Fla. on Drug Charges

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Rush Limbaugh was arrested Friday on prescription drug charges, law enforcement officials said.

Limbaugh turned himself in to authorities on a warrant issued by the state attorney's office, said agency spokeswoman Teri Barbera.

The conservative radio commentator came into the jail at about 4 p.m. with his attorney Roy Black and was released an hour later on $3,000 bail, Barbera said.

The warrant was for fraud to conceal information to obtain prescription, Barbera said.
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2006, 03:01:50 PM »
Wow, that was fast

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Limbaugh Reaches Settlement in Drug Case

By BRIAN SKOLOFF, Associated Press Writer 26 minutes ago

Rush Limbaugh and prosecutors in the long-running prescription drug case against him reached a deal Friday calling for the only charge against the conservative commentator to be dropped without a guilty plea if he continues treatment.

Limbaugh turned himself in to authorities on a warrant filed Friday charging him with fraud to conceal information to obtain prescriptions, said Teri Barbera, a spokeswoman for the Palm Beach County Jail. He and his attorney Roy Black left about an hour later, after Limbaugh was photographed and fingerprinted and he posted $3,000 bail, Barbera said.

Prosecutors' three-year investigation of Limbaugh began after he publicly acknowledged being addicted to pain medication and entered a rehabilitation program. They accused Limbaugh of "doctor shopping," or illegally deceiving multiple doctors to receive overlapping prescriptions, after learning that he received about 2,000 painkillers, prescribed by four doctors in six months, at a pharmacy near his Palm Beach mansion.

Limbaugh, who pleaded not guilty Friday, has steadfastly denied doctor shopping. Black said the charge will be dismissed in 18 months if Limbaugh complies with court guidelines.

"Mr. Limbaugh and I have maintained from the start that there was no doctor shopping, and we continue to hold this position," Black said in an e-mailed statement.

As a primary condition of the dismissal, Limbaugh must continue to seek treatment from the doctor he has seen for the past 2 1/2 years, Black said. Among other provisions, he also has agreed to pay the state $30,000 to defray its investigative costs, Black said.

Prosecutors did not immediately return a call for comment.

They began investigating Limbaugh in 2003 after the National Enquirer reported his housekeeper's allegations that he had abused OxyContin and other painkillers. He soon took a five-week leave from his radio show to enter a rehabilitation program and acknowledged he had become addicted to pain medication. He blamed it on severe back pain.

Before his own problems became public, Limbaugh had decried drug use and abuse and mocked President Clinton for saying he had not inhaled when he tried marijuana. He often made the case that drug crimes deserve punishment.

"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up," Limbaugh said on his short-lived television show on Oct. 5, 1995.

Prosecutors seized Limbaugh's medical records after learning about the painkillers he had received at the Palm Beach pharmacy. The investigation was held up as the prosecutors and Black battled in court over whether the records were properly seized.

Limbaugh reported five years ago that he had lost most of his hearing because of an autoimmune inner-ear disease. He had surgery to have an electronic device placed in his skull to restore his hearing. But research shows that abusing opiate-based painkillers also can cause profound hearing loss.

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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2006, 03:13:59 PM »
The pundits are spinning this as a new charge.  It looks to me like it is a legal dance that is putting the original charge to rest.  He is arrested, booked, bailed, pleads, pays a fine and is on supervised "probation" for 18 months and then it's done as long as he does not backslide.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2006, 06:36:39 PM »
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Before his own problems became public, Limbaugh had decried drug use and abuse and mocked President Clinton for saying he had not inhaled when he tried marijuana. He often made the case that drug crimes deserve punishment.

"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up," Limbaugh said on his short-lived television show on Oct. 5, 1995.
Who didn't mock Clinton for his "I didn't inhale" nonsense?  Every druggie who heard that must have laughed pretty hard.  Limbaugh admitted that his pain medication had become an addiction, admitted he was wrong, and took steps to stop it.  No crime could be proven, so Rush turned himself in, pleaded innocent and agreed to jump through some hoops to avoid further legal action.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2006, 06:40:47 PM »
I wonder if he'll have the courage to admit that he has forfeit the right to call for any tougher treatment for any other illegal drug user.

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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2006, 06:53:20 PM »
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I wonder if he'll have the courage to admit that he has forfeit the right to call for any tougher treatment for any other illegal drug user.
Huh?  He was not found guilty.  Even if he is guilty of doctor shopping, he still didn't rob people for drug money, or neglect his kids for his drug habit (his wife, maybe), etc.  Even a baseball player who does steroids is more morally culpable, as he is giving himself an illegitimate edge over his peers.

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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2006, 05:23:00 AM »
Fistful, nope, you can't have it both ways. He broke the law. The law is the law. If you don't like the law, work to get it changed.

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2006, 05:51:34 AM »
grampster, good call, that was it exactly.  Have done this myself a time or two.

Deal was probably struck 2 or 3 months ago.  Prosecutors needed their "perp walk" and it was scheduled for a Friday as usual.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2006, 06:15:35 AM »
Agree with grampster and El Tejon. Prosecutor put himself on the line in the media, and needed an exit strategy.

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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2006, 07:06:04 AM »
DJJ, where do you get, "He broke the law"?  He pleaded "not guilty", and he's always maintained that there was no "doctor shopping" (and that in fact the doctors involved were part of the same practice, working from one set of medical records).  The DA even testified in court a few months ago that he didn't have "the elements of a crime."

The DA offered to go away for $30,000.  Rush took the deal.  If the DA really had any evidence of a crime, he would not have done a deal with a "not guilty" plea.  $30,000 to Rush is like a couple hundred dollars to me--would I pay $200 (legal and above-board--not a bribe) to make the Spanish Inquisition go away?  Absolutely!

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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2006, 07:19:13 AM »
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So, how many people are going to rabidly defend Limbaugh using the logic of 'he wasn't harming anyone / making any negative effect on society' while still also supporting the war on drugs because everyone knows that drugs turn people into white-woman-raping, home-robbing, street-sleeping goodfornothins'?
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Only you would expect such a thing to happen.

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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2006, 08:14:43 AM »
How embarassing
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2006, 08:30:49 AM »
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Fistful, nope, you can't have it both ways. He broke the law. The law is the law. If you don't like the law, work to get it changed.
As stated above he has not been found guilty of anything.

He became addicted while under his doctors care. He went into a program and now he is clean.

Case closed.

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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2006, 09:18:05 AM »
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So, how many people are going to rabidly defend Limbaugh using the logic of 'he wasn't harming anyone / making any negative effect on society' while still also supporting the war on drugs because everyone knows that drugs turn people into white-woman-raping, home-robbing, street-sleeping goodfornothins'?


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A lot, I'm afraid; they already are. I am with you on this one, B.

 I am totally against the war on drugs but since some, including loudmouth Limbaugh, are for it, I wish he would hang.

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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2006, 09:20:17 AM »
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I wonder if he'll have the courage to admit that he has forfeit the right to call for any tougher treatment for any other illegal drug user.
He should, but won't.

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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2006, 09:36:37 AM »
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So, how many people are going to rabidly defend Limbaugh using the logic of 'he wasn't harming anyone / making any negative effect on society' while still also supporting the war on drugs because everyone knows that drugs turn people into white-woman-raping, home-robbing, street-sleeping goodfornothins'?
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I wonder if he'll have the courage to admit that he has forfeit the right to call for any tougher treatment for any other illegal drug user.
OK, let's try logic one more time...

He wasn't buying illegal crack cocaine or heroin from pushers so that he could get high.  He was using legal medications, legally prescribed by his doctors in the usual, customary and reasonable treatment of a medical condition.  Does anyone see any moral, ethical, or legal distinctions between these two situations?

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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2006, 10:00:57 AM »
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He wasn't buying illegal crack cocaine or heroin from pushers so that he could get high.  He was using legal medications, legally prescribed by his doctors in the usual, customary and reasonable treatment of a medical condition.  Does anyone see any moral, ethical, or legal distinctions between these two situations?
No, because it doesn't fit the template they view everything through.

Conservatives are held to higher standards than liberal politicians/pundits. I would include libertarian politicians but they haven't figured out how to get elected in the free market of ideas.

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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2006, 10:04:43 AM »
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So, how many people are going to rabidly defend Limbaugh using the logic of 'he wasn't harming anyone / making any negative effect on society' while still also supporting the war on drugs because everyone knows that drugs turn people into white-woman-raping, home-robbing, street-sleeping goodfornothins'?
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I wonder if he'll have the courage to admit that he has forfeit the right to call for any tougher treatment for any other illegal drug user.
OK, let's try logic one more time...

He wasn't buying illegal crack cocaine or heroin from pushers so that he could get high.  He was using legal medications, legally prescribed by his doctors in the usual, customary and reasonable treatment of a medical condition.  Does anyone see any moral, ethical, or legal distinctions between these two situations?
No. The distinctions between "legal" and "illegal" drugs are tenuous, insidious, statist, elitist, semantic, bogus and unscientific. The drug he was having his maid surrepticiously score for him comes from the same plant as heroin.

 Until all drugs are sold over-the-counter, I want all drug warriors to be eaten by alligators.

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2006, 10:09:45 AM »
Doesn't matter.  They reached a deal and it's all settled.  He's out on a $3,000 bond, but nothing further is anticipated from the prosecutor.  He's to continue with the doctor's treatment that he's been using since this first became public knowledge.  He agrees to no "doctor shopping".  All he has to do is keep on keeping on with what he's been doing for some two years.

So, literally, closed.

As far as his notions about illegal drugs, who better than an ex-junkie to speak against something that is quite regularly detrimental to users?

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2006, 11:56:23 AM »
Ho, hum, YAWN[/i]!  

At least Betty Ford got us a useful, if all too exclusive and expensive, clinic.  All the Baron of Bombast is likely to do is generate ever more noise.

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2006, 09:02:55 PM »
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As far as his notions about illegal drugs, who better than an ex-junkie to speak against something that is quite regularly detrimental to users?
Perhaps he has credibility to talk about the ills of drug abuse, but I don't see how he can continue to call for throwing the book at drug users after landing on his feet from a legal standpoint.
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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2006, 03:59:49 AM »
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So, how many people are going to rabidly defend Limbaugh using the logic of 'he wasn't harming anyone / making any negative effect on society' while still also supporting the war on drugs because everyone knows that drugs turn people into white-woman-raping, home-robbing, street-sleeping goodfornothins'?


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I don't see where Limbaugh was harming anyone but himself and that's his right.

However, I can't defend his hypocrisy calling for the harsh treatment of drug abusers while at the same time being one himself or for supporting the War on (some) Drugs.
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2006, 04:18:30 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2006, 08:39:21 AM »
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Fistful, nope, you can't have it both ways. He broke the law. The law is the law. If you don't like the law, work to get it changed.
Where did I ask to have it both ways?  If the man broke the law, I'm sure the state of Florida would love to see your proof.  Where did Limbaugh complain about the laws he was charged with breaking?  

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I wonder if he'll have the courage to admit that he has forfeit the right to call for any tougher treatment for any other illegal drug user.
So he's no better than the guy who kills or robs for drug money?  He's no better than the mother so wacked-out on drugs that she can't care for her children?  Where are the people dying when condoms full of pain pills burst in thier stomachs as they cross the border?

Where did Limbaugh say that anyone addicted to any drug should be jailed, killed, beaten or charged with a crime?
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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2006, 08:42:46 AM »
Whether or not you or I believe that one or another drug ought to be legal/illegal, does not change the facts in Mr. Ditto's case:
1. The drugs he obtained are currently legal
2. The prosecutor couldn't come up with the eveidence that he got them illegally or there would have been no or a less favorable deal
3. Mr. Ditto claims innocence and will not be convicted of diddly if he keeps his nose clean for a couple years.

He can continue his bombast against illegal drugs without a trace of hypocracy, from his viewpoint.

The most important point in the whole case, to me, was the prosecutor's demands for Ditto's med records.  I thought that to be serious overreaching and dangerous to our privacy interests.

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He wasn't buying illegal crack cocaine or heroin from pushers so that he could get high.  He was using legal medications, legally prescribed by his doctors in the usual, customary and reasonable treatment of a medical condition.  Does anyone see any moral, ethical, or legal distinctions between these two situations?
No, because it doesn't fit the template they view everything through.

Conservatives are held to higher standards than liberal politicians/pundits. I would include libertarian politicians but they haven't figured out how to get elected in the free market of ideas.
Ain't that the truth!  Michael Medved has it right when he labels the Libertarian Party "Losertarians."  I am pretty much a small "L," but MM is right: the LP couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper bag.
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