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« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2006, 07:30:14 AM »
From Cali - Grand Canyon (north central AZ), Monument Valley (southeastern UT), maybe a day or two in southwest Colorado (beautiful mountains and a big chunk of U.S. mining history), Dinosaur National Monument (northwest CO), Yellowstone Park (northwestern WY).

These are the places I know about that are absolute must see's. Not very up to speed on anything east of the Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas line.

FYI - southwest Colorado looks like this (Dallas Divide between Ridgeway and Telluride)...






and this (old mines above Creede)...


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« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2006, 07:41:45 AM »
Pictures like that top one of Brad's spell out why I want to go back to the South West so damned badly.
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« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2006, 07:46:08 AM »
Even the old mine pic is attractive.  

Another pretty area is to be in the Pisgah Nat Forest of Western NC when the rhodadendrons (yeah, I mangled the name) bloom.  Some of the trails are nothing but tunnels through huge thickets of the stuff.  

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« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2006, 07:46:32 AM »
FYI, the mountain sunset was pic Taken last June - about 7 in the evening. Dad and I had pulled off the road for a pit stop and I couldn't not take a pic with a view like that staring me in the face.

The mines are on the Bacholor Trail historic loop above Creede. I coulda stayed there all day (and the next, and the day after that...)

Glad you like them! Smiley Wish I had more.

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« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2006, 08:12:14 AM »
Back when I was in Raton I took a LOT of pictures. I'm going to try to remember to take some of them to Chris' place one of these days and scan them.
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« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2006, 08:16:29 AM »
Brad - if I promise not to sign my name on that first picture and call it my own could I possibly have a larger version?
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« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2006, 09:08:31 AM »
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« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2006, 09:16:40 AM »
I'm making it the wallpaper on my computer at home.

Just to play tit for tat on the photo views, though, here's one I took a couple of years ago...

Longest stone arch railroad bridge in the world, just outside of Harrisburg, PA, about a mile from where I grew up.

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« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2006, 09:31:35 AM »
Thanks Mike!

Hope this thread is giving Mr. and Mrs. Bill plenty of ideas for their trip.

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« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2006, 02:00:15 PM »
Reading through your response it seems cars and the civil war plays large in your expectations.  Perhaps a regional tour is appropriate.  Depending upon the time of year you can see a lot in the southeast.  Charleston north through DC and west toward Harper's Ferry will put you in the heart of the Civil War.  You could easily spend a full day at Harper's Ferry (a precursor to the war featuring the major leadership before they became famous) and Antietem (bloodiest single day in American history).  DC to Richmond is the heart of the war.  Gettysburg is a must.  Get close to DC and there is the Smithsonian and the Air and Space Museum.  Easily a day in each.  Take a look at the Bull Run battlefield then make your way eventually down to Appomatox Courthouse where Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia (hint:  the Civil War ain't over.  Lee surrendered one army)

Rent a DVD before coming.  Rent North and South the series.  A remarkably accurate drama about the Civil War.  A lot of the exterior photography and sets were in the Charleston area.  While in Charleston make an appointment to see the USS Hunley being restored at an old naval base.  Hunley was the first submarine to sink a warship in combat.  It sunk immediately thereafter and stayed down until a few years ago.  It was recovered and currently undergoing restoration.  The Hunley was sunk off charleston but had a hard link to the battle of Shilo, half way across the continent.

If you get to Charlotte go to the Charlotte Motor speedway and have dinner in the club.  Head off to Mooresville where something like 60% of the NASCAR teams work.

If you get here at the right time of the year you can park your four wheeler and rent a Harley then take a trip up the Blue Ridge Parkway during leaf season.  People come from all over the world to see the change of season.  

You got a big task ahead if you go with a tour of the US.  Good luck and keep us posted.
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« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2006, 05:38:34 PM »
If you get to *Eastern* North Carolina, never mind the shrimp and grits, get a pulled-pork sandwich. There, unlike the rest of the world, they know how to do pig right.
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« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2006, 07:24:14 PM »
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Reading through your response it seems cars and the civil war plays large in your expectations.  Perhaps a regional tour is appropriate.  Depending upon the time of year you can see a lot in the southeast.  Charleston north through DC and west toward Harper's Ferry will put you in the heart of the Civil War.  You could easily spend a full day at Harper's Ferry (a precursor to the war featuring the major leadership before they became famous) and Antietem (bloodiest single day in American history).  DC to Richmond is the heart of the war.  Gettysburg is a must.  Get close to DC and there is the Smithsonian and the Air and Space Museum.  Easily a day in each.  Take a look at the Bull Run battlefield then make your way eventually down to Appomatox Courthouse where Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia (hint:  the Civil War ain't over.  Lee surrendered one army)

Rent a DVD before coming.  Rent North and South the series.  A remarkably accurate drama about the Civil War.  A lot of the exterior photography and sets were in the Charleston area.  While in Charleston make an appointment to see the USS Hunley being restored at an old naval base.  Hunley was the first submarine to sink a warship in combat.  It sunk immediately thereafter and stayed down until a few years ago.  It was recovered and currently undergoing restoration.  The Hunley was sunk off charleston but had a hard link to the battle of Shilo, half way across the continent.

If you get to Charlotte go to the Charlotte Motor speedway and have dinner in the club.  Head off to Mooresville where something like 60% of the NASCAR teams work.

If you get here at the right time of the year you can park your four wheeler and rent a Harley then take a trip up the Blue Ridge Parkway during leaf season.  People come from all over the world to see the change of season.  

You got a big task ahead if you go with a tour of the US.  Good luck and keep us posted.
Right on about the Blue Ridge parkway. And a note about Charleston, they are known for being a remarkably friendly and polite town, even by Southron standards. For that matter, if you're into DVD watching as an idea of scenery, a lot of the scenic cutaways in 'The last of the Mohicans' (1992) were done in the Blue Ridge mountains. The Smokies, just west of there are just as pretty if you want to cruise over to Nashville to see the Hollywood of country music.
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« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2006, 12:32:28 AM »
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Hope this thread is giving Mr. and Mrs. Bill plenty of ideas for their trip.

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You could say that.

Ideas and plenty of scope for verbal knife fights over destinations Cheesy. The current one is trying to find something nice for madam to do whilst I go and play at somewhere like steel rain. I am tempted to hire a bike out there but taking my own gear over would be a pain, I like wearing my own lid you see.


Waitone may have hit the nail on the head, I'm leaning towards picking one or two regions, spending ten or so days in each and budgeting an extra week to travel between them. What SWMBO thinks has yet to be announced Smiley

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« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2006, 02:09:52 AM »
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If you get to *Eastern* North Carolina, never mind the shrimp and grits, get a pulled-pork sandwich. There, unlike the rest of the world, they know how to do pig right.
Oh yeah!  If you come through NoVa and can give me adequate notice, I'll look into making some Eastern NC bbq for you myself.  Barring that, there's a local bbq shack that makes  a very close approximation.

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The last of the Mohicans' (1992) were done in the Blue Ridge mountains.
When I saw that movie for the first time, I was thinking to myself, "I've seen those places before".  I was right.  I had been to some of those exact spots (mostly the area used for the final fight scenes) a few years before.  

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« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2006, 03:15:22 AM »
"Oh yeah!  If you come through NoVa and can give me adequate notice, I'll look into making some Eastern NC bbq for you myself.  Barring that, there's a local bbq shack that makes  a very close approximation."

Take him up on it. I've had his NC BBQ... It's kind of shocking the first time he pulls his pork in front of you, but... Smiley

To be honest, it's not the absolute best I've ever had, but it's certainly worthy of being sold out of a run down shack by the side of the road.

You talking about Dixie Bones, Chris? We need to go back there. Their beans are good.

And if it works out when you come over, I'll make you a specialty from my heritage -- Shoo Fly Pie.
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« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2006, 05:11:57 AM »
Hate to rain on your parade, but if you plan to rent, hope you are well heeled.  i looked at the cost of renting a car and driving from Charleston, SC to Findlay Ohio, and with the projected millage they were going to sting me for close to 4 grand.  I ended up driving down and back to brunswick GA and that cost me about a grand in gas alone (one month ago,  and i went the extremely scenic route, direct would pry save you a few hundred bucks) in a truck with a 496 bigblock (2001 one ton chevy dually)

i can't pass a gas station without cringing now.

for that kind of coin, you would be well served to look at buying something from a used lot, and selling it when you get to the end. perhaps ebay?

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« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2006, 05:25:07 AM »
Mtnbkr, wanna pass along your recipe?
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« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2006, 05:27:43 AM »
Depends on what you rent.  On a trip back to Georgia from Texas, I had a transmission crap out.  5PM Friday, Loop 8, Houston.  Yuck.  Found a tranny-shop open on Saturday in Pasadena.  Rented a Ford Escort.  $28/day, plus gas.  42mpg for the 750 miles to GA; same on the return to get the truck.  Lots of lower-cost rentals get 30 mpg, or ten cents per mile.

Lots of clean, inexpensive motels, too, if you can get past the smell of curry in the office. Cheesy

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« Reply #68 on: May 06, 2006, 09:08:54 AM »
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Ideas and plenty of scope for verbal knife fights over destinations Cheesy. The current one is trying to find something nice for madam to do whilst I go and play at somewhere like steel rain.
Perhaps this may add some flexibility to the schedule if you're planning on visiting Texas.

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« Reply #69 on: May 06, 2006, 11:12:44 AM »
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Mtnbkr, wanna pass along your recipe?
Sure, well, as much of a recipe that it is...

Depending on the number of people we're feeding and what sort of grill facilities we have, we use anywhere from a single shoulder to an entire hog.  A 50lb (Dressed) hog will make enough bbq to feed 50-60 people.  That's what we use for our yearly bbq at my aunt and uncle's house.  When my parents make bbq for us ('rents, brother, me, my wife, and daughter), they use 2 shoulders and have plenty left over.  

Cook said pork over low or indirect flame.  If using a gas grill, put the meat at one end and turn the burner on at the other end (if possible).  It'll take anwhere from 3hrs to all day to cook depending on amount and heat.  Slower is better.  When doing a whole hog, the carcass is over direct flame and it takes 6-8hrs to cook, though about 4hrs into the process, we're pulling ribs for lunch.  If you're cooking a whole hog, make sure you put a piece of chicken wire or something similar on the cook surface before you lay the hog down.  Have another piece handy when it's time to flip the hog (about halfway through).  You'll make a "hog sandwhich" with the chicken wire and flip the hog using that instead of grabbing it by the legs like some people do.  I've seen a hog fall apart when folks try to flip it by the legs.  It'll make you cry. Sad Wink  Also, smear lard on the skin to make it crisp.  This is VERY tasty, though not very healthy.  Then again, this isn't about your cholesterol numbers...

The sauce is the final part.  I don't have the recipe handy, but it's roughly 1gal cider vinegar, 1 12oz bottle of ketchup, 1/4lb of dried pepper flakes, a small bottle of Texas Pete hot sauce, juice of one lemon, salt, and probably a few other ingredients I've left out (but those are the main ones).  It's not a "cast in stone" recipe, just whatever you think is right.  However, this is a thin, watery sauce.  It is not like KC Masterpiece or any of the other thick sauces you get at the store.  Mix the ingredients while it cooks over medium heat.  If cooked indoors, it will open your sinuses. Smiley  Let cool, bottle, and you're set.  

As you cook the pork, liberally bath the meat in this sauce.  Once meat is cooked completely, you cut it off the bone, then transfer to your chopping block in small batches.  Chop it till most of the piecs are 1/4" to 1/2" in size (and some larger).  Add sauce to personal preference as you chop.  This is messy and you will get it on you so wear an apron and do this outside.

Most of the time, there's not much to do, so fill in the emptyness by sitting around and bullshittin', drinkin' beer, etc.  It's a glorious way to spend a fall day. Smiley

That's basically it.  Here are some pics from our last family bbq:

After about an hour of cooking


Making the skin crisp


The hog is split down the spine to let it lay flat like this


Chopping the bbq (Btw, the cleaver is made from an old bush ax, I have one like it)


Time to eat


BTW, in the latest Stuff magazine, they do a cross country tour of the best bbq shacks.  Wilbur's in Goldsboro (same town my grandparents live in) was on the list.  Wilbur's is much like what my family makes.  The sauce is nearly identical.

Sorry for the thread drift...

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« Reply #70 on: May 06, 2006, 04:34:50 PM »
It's the sauce recipe I was looking for, actuall. But ketchup? Maybe I'm more East than you.

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« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2006, 04:03:15 AM »
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It's the sauce recipe I was looking for, actuall. But ketchup? Maybe I'm more East than you.
The ketchup could be a result of my grandfather's thriftyness.  He probably saw that it required a source of tomatoes and felt ketchup was the path of least resistance.   I think I left out the brown sugar.  There's roughly 1/4 cup of brown sugar to a gallon of sauce.

If you can find it, there's a brand of sauce available in Food Lion called Scott's (tagline: The best ye ever tasted).  If you can find that, it's worth getting.  It's very similar to other bbq sauces from the Goldsboro area (probably because the company is from Goldsboro).  I haven't seen it outside of NC in years though.

Where in NC are you located?  My family's in the Goldsboro area, which is roughly midstate, maybe a bit east of middle.

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« Reply #72 on: May 07, 2006, 04:42:26 AM »
So what's wrong with using catsup?

I use it as the base for a lot of my sauces. Absolutely consistent in flavor and quality, and cuts down on the preparation time.
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« Reply #73 on: May 07, 2006, 05:09:28 AM »
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So what's wrong with using catsup?
I'm never really sure whether I should use catsup or ketchup. I keep both on hand just to be prepared. How do you determine which is right for what purpose? A real quandry, to be sure. Tongue
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« Reply #74 on: May 07, 2006, 06:11:27 AM »
"I'm never really sure whether I should use catsup or ketchup. I keep both on hand just to be prepared. How do you determine which is right for what purpose?"


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