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Fricking LASER
« on: October 31, 2011, 06:43:35 PM »




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8857154/Worlds-most-powerful-laser-to-tear-apart-the-vacuum-of-space.html


Under the theory that even a vacuum is populated with "ghost particles" that hop trans-dimensionally, scientists want to make a laser that is more powerful at its focal point than the core of the Sun.  And they want to smite these particles and cause them to disassociate into smaller particles in the hopes that they can then detect them.


Newton's Laws concern me in regards to this.
-For every action, there is an equal and opposing reaction.

If these particles "hop" transdimensionally, then there is already an energy source fascilitating this transdimensional hop.  And that energy source is depleted and extinguished when the particle enters our dimension and then immediately leaves.

Destroying the particle before it leaves... robs the reaction of the sum of energy and mass that result in a 0 energy/mass final result in our Universe.  And leaves a door open... somewhere.

Makes me think of uncontrolled/spontaneously opened interdimensional portals.  And head crabs.









More mundanely, I wonder with my non-physics-trained noggin, if this transdimensional vacuum particle portal they seek isn't really the equivalent of a black hole's digestive tract, and the little particles are kind of like gas.  Halting the reaction that is supposedly happening might overpressurize a black hole somewhere and cause it to go nova.
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2011, 06:52:55 PM »
The energy needed to make the virtual particle real (it's mass) is taken from the laser beam, so no net energy creation.  This process is the same thing that causes black holes to evaporate if not fed...it's called hawking radiation.

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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2011, 06:54:25 PM »
The energy needed to make the virtual particle real (it's mass) is taken from the laser beam, so no net energy creation.  This process is the same thing that causes black holes to evaporate if not fed...it's called hawking radiation.

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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2011, 07:00:21 PM »
Nor am I, Tallpine. Hawking has no street cred.
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2011, 07:37:59 PM »
I'm not so sure I want to deal with transdimensional sharks with frickin' laser beams....  [tinfoil]
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2011, 08:32:29 PM »
So how do they get all the sharks to aim their lasers at one tiny spot in a vacuum?  For one thing, sharks have to swim to breath so they can't keep it that steady.  For another, vacuums aren't going to work well underwater anyway. 
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2011, 04:01:08 PM »
Suppose... two swallows carried it, together?
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 05:17:59 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation


If we could produce a quantum singularity, a "Hawking Bomb" would be AWESOME!

At least if you weren't standing on the molten half of the Earth, that is...  :angel:
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 05:36:07 PM »
At least if you weren't standing on the molten half of the Earth, that is...  :angel:

Not that standing on the unmolten half would be any better.... =|
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2011, 05:40:54 PM »
Not that standing on the unmolten half would be any better.... =|

Yeah, the shockwave from the "wind", (mostly supersonic steam from the oceans on that side of the globe) would pretty much atomize you.  =D

It would be a good star system 'cleaning' machine pre-colonization too. The gamma ray flux of all the virtual particles becoming real would be enough to sterilize most all complex life in a star system from a few AU away. No messy kinetics, or wasteful ground invasions.

And you could re-use the thing too, if you could turn the "feeder" particle accelerators back on before it went exponentially runaway/critical as it's mass goes down, and the event horizon cuts off an ever greater number of virtual particle/antiparticle pairs.
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2011, 05:57:28 PM »
I suppose "prepare for unforeseen consequences" has really taken on new meaning, hasn't it?
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2011, 06:39:56 PM »
I suppose "prepare for unforeseen consequences" has really taken on new meaning, hasn't it?

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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2011, 07:45:19 PM »
What was the plot in Half Life?  Been forever since I've played it.  What experiment were they working on when they made their "oops?"
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2011, 11:45:07 PM »
What was the plot in Half Life?  Been forever since I've played it.  What experiment were they working on when they made their "oops?"

They were working on teleportation.
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2011, 01:06:50 PM »
What was the plot in Half Life?  Been forever since I've played it.  What experiment were they working on when they made their "oops?"

You start the game scanning some interesting "sample" with some kind of super scanner which results in interesting effects...
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2011, 01:56:46 PM »
"EU physicists building world's largest laser. Biggest hurdle: keeping world's largest herd of cats from constantly pouncing on it."
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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 01:59:34 PM »
"EU physicists building world's largest laser. Biggest hurdle: keeping world's largest herd of cats from constantly pouncing on it."
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Not really.

Herd of cats is vaporized instantaneously.  Dogs rejoice.



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Re: Fricking LASER
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2011, 04:41:32 PM »
Not really.

Herd of cats is vaporized instantaneously.  Dogs rejoice.



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