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Wikipedia is real smart.
« on: January 21, 2012, 07:06:59 PM »
Could someone please help me to understand the following quotation? It is too smart for me.

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Charcoal production is usually illegal and nearly always unregulated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charcoal#Environmental_implications
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Re: Wikipedia is real smart.
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 07:09:49 PM »
That does seem contradictory doesn't it?

Maybe they are trying to say it is flat out illegal and as such, there is no regulations for when and where it can be produced because people aren't supposed to be doing it in the first place?

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Re: Wikipedia is real smart.
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 07:17:52 PM »
Well, it's not being regulated until the people doing the processing get caught, right?

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Re: Wikipedia is real smart.
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 07:38:02 PM »
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Charcoal production at a sub-industrial level is one of the primary causes of deforestation in the Developing World. Charcoal production is usually illegal and nearly always unregulated.[citation needed] Massive forest destruction has been documented in areas such as Virunga National Park in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where it is considered to be a primary threat to the survival of the mountain gorillas.[9] Similar threats are found in Zambia.

The whole paragraph.
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Re: Wikipedia is real smart.
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 07:48:19 PM »
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Similar threats are found in Zambia.
I saw quite a few "local" charcoal ovens when I was in Zambia some years back.
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Re: Wikipedia is real smart.
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2012, 11:22:56 PM »
The whole paragraph.

What, you think things need to be interpreted in context or somethin?


I guess what they're saying is that it is officially outlawed, but the laws are not enforced. Still, clumsy wording.  =)
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2012, 11:42:10 PM »
I make charcoal on a fairly regular basis, I'm not aware of any regulation on it's production in my jurisdiction.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2012, 11:53:31 PM »
Mostly illegal since it's not the producer is poaching the trees they cook. Laws not enforced because not enough manpower to do it and survive.  The dhow we re-capped from Somali pirates was hauling charcoal from India to Kenya. The fact that  a low grade cargo like that even makes economic sense illustrates how crappy things are in Africa.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 12:08:02 AM »
Mostly illegal since it's not the producer is poaching the trees they cook. Laws not enforced because not enough manpower to do it and survive.  The dhow we re-capped from Somali pirates was hauling charcoal from India to Kenya. The fact that  a low grade cargo like that even makes economic sense illustrates how crappy things are in Africa.

Wow...

Reminds me of modern Appalachian poverty documentaries, where they'll often make a point of following kids out to the local highway cuts through the hills, where they'll dig a basket of coal out of the strata to help heat the house.
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Re: Wikipedia is real smart.
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 02:53:41 AM »
I make charcoal on a fairly regular basis,...

Is that a euphemism for something?  Should you be seeing a doctor?

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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2012, 03:45:38 AM »
Is that a euphemism for something?  Should you be seeing a doctor?

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Nope, actually making charcoal. It is an essential ingredient in a number of concoctions.
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2012, 03:49:39 PM »
Nope, actually making charcoal. It is an essential ingredient in a number of concoctions.


So is corn  ;)

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