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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #100 on: February 24, 2012, 09:46:39 AM »
Quote from: HankB on February 24, 2012, 08:07:13 AM
Same here - but in my case, I just know I'd somehow manage to get myself into hot water by doing something easy, obvious, and straightforward, but without the official sanctioning paperwork . . .

(And besides, none of the local ranges would take kindly to my touching off the type of flare gun innovations under discussion here . . .  :'( )

That's why I'm going through the trouble to DD it.

I have to shoot buckshot or solids out of it for my range to let me use it. I've got leads on friends with some land who have 4th of July parties where I could probably try some of the pyro, smoke, and the actual Czech flares, but not at my club... And a member on another board who belongs to a very small club where "do what you want so long as you don't make a mess" is possible too.

But this won't be a regular thing.

It'll cost me more than the launcher in the shells, but I'm still holding fast to my dream of making a bunch of loads full of #8 birdshot and trying at least one round of trap at my club with them. 
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #101 on: February 24, 2012, 11:16:32 AM »
Quote from: AJ Dual on February 24, 2012, 09:46:39 AM
. . . I'm still holding fast to my dream of making a bunch of loads full of #8 birdshot and trying at least one round of trap at my club with them.
  One round of trap - this times 25:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uJouw9uh84
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2012, 12:51:23 PM »
Quote from: HankB on February 24, 2012, 11:16:32 AM
  One round of trap - this times 25:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uJouw9uh84

Eh... back in the day, real men used 2 gauge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=e4L6Zpg9klw  =D

Although seriously, I might be able to make it bearable by using ultra slow smokeless powders, if I can find some reclaimed milsurp powder such as what's used in 20 and 30 automatic cannon shells.

I fully understand that F=MA... no matter what you do. However, certain tricks can spread that "A" out over time a bit.  =)
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2012, 02:44:37 PM »
i want to hunt chuckar with one of these:
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2012, 02:59:30 PM »
Which round? The .22 Beehive thing, or what?
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #105 on: February 24, 2012, 03:01:20 PM »
Wait until the dog is on point, then lay a string of grenades in that general direction?
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #106 on: February 24, 2012, 03:26:12 PM »
Too much work. A metal trash can lid full of seeds, hooked up to some bare wires run off the 220V stove/dryer circuit in the basement would do.
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #107 on: February 24, 2012, 04:13:05 PM »
well, with the right heat you would not have to pluck the chuckar
but a DD registered havoc shooting #6 shot would be fun

not much barrel length for swinging though
It might be better for rock salting demons
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #108 on: February 25, 2012, 05:59:26 PM »
Woohoo! It is officially on its way. Scheduled delivery is the first. I hate having to wait so long,
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #109 on: February 26, 2012, 01:46:29 AM »
Punt gun for the win.
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #110 on: February 26, 2012, 03:43:30 PM »
So any round that has over 1/4 oz of explosives in it would have to be registered as a DD? And the powder use to propel the round counts towards that?
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #111 on: February 26, 2012, 05:09:45 PM »
Quote from: freakazoid on February 26, 2012, 03:43:30 PM
So any round that has over 1/4 oz of explosives in it would have to be registered as a DD? And the powder use to propel the round counts towards that?

The propellant charge is not counted, it is a -projectile- containing more than a quarter oz.  otherwise anything bigger than a 338LM/RUM would be a DD
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #112 on: February 26, 2012, 06:05:46 PM »
Quote from: AJ Dual on February 24, 2012, 03:26:12 PM
Too much work. A metal trash can lid full of seeds, hooked up to some bare wires run off the 220V stove/dryer circuit in the basement would do.

Overkill. I manage to take a dozen or so birds a year with my hotwire fence. I once got 4 hummingbirds in one morning. I'd go out and find them hanging upside down from the wire. I think the combination of the bright yellow insulators and the orange t-posts did it. birds would land on the hot wire and maybe thing the insulator was a flower and contact the grounded t-post.
I got a young rabbit with it last year as well, I think it put it's nose to the wire.
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #113 on: February 27, 2012, 09:46:53 PM »
Ha! Mine and Mrs. Smith's shipped too! Will be here Friday.
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #114 on: February 28, 2012, 05:33:35 AM »
And I have to wait two weeks to play with it? Dammit.
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #115 on: March 01, 2012, 08:05:41 PM »
Mine showed up today.  It's purdy.

The hinge pin confounded me for a sec, it is knurled like it is threaded on one end.  I was spinning it and it wasn't coming out.  Tried to pull on it with what I considered to be reasonable force..  didn't come out.  Spun it some more and scratched my head.  Finally I really pulled on it hard and it finally popped loose so I could mate up the forend with the reciever.  Had to use a persuader to get the pin back in.  It hinges smooth as can be so I guess it is supposed to be that way (I'm ok with that, that would be a bad pin to have walk out).
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #116 on: March 01, 2012, 09:00:26 PM »
She's in. And she is beautiful. Tears of happiness, :'( Can't wait to try it out. One thing I wasn't expecting was when I opened the test target paper they used, in the center is a a giant rabbit and bird. :lol: [ar15]
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #117 on: March 01, 2012, 09:06:04 PM »
Quote from: freakazoid on March 01, 2012, 09:00:26 PM
She's in. And she is beautiful. Tears of happiness, :'( Can't wait to try it out. One thing I wasn't expecting was when I opened the test target paper they used, in the center is a a giant rabbit and bird. :lol: [ar15]

Lol yeah, I had to check to see if those were added by hand there are so out of place!
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #118 on: March 01, 2012, 09:09:34 PM »
Here is a crappy pic.  This thing is long over all!  It is only a couple of inches shorter than a .gov profile AR-15



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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #119 on: March 02, 2012, 08:52:56 AM »
Mine arrived as well...talk about a robust design...
It appears on first inspection the design (barrel thickness, breech, latching, etc) is designed for some pretty substantial stresses, which bodes well for future loading.
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #120 on: March 02, 2012, 09:08:38 AM »
Quote from: birdman on March 02, 2012, 08:52:56 AM
Mine arrived as well...talk about a robust design...
It appears on first inspection the design (barrel thickness, breech, latching, etc) is designed for some pretty substantial stresses, which bodes well for future loading.

Noticed this as well.  I pondered the possibility of semi low velocity GyroJet ish munitions(1).


1. Dear ATF, AFTER I set up a trust and DD the launcher.
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #121 on: March 02, 2012, 09:27:19 AM »
Quote from: RevDisk on March 02, 2012, 09:08:38 AM
Noticed this as well.  I pondered the possibility of semi low velocity GyroJet ish munitions(1).


1. Dear ATF, AFTER I set up a trust and DD the launcher.

Well, I don't see a problem with rocket propelled signal/pyrotechnic loads right now if you care to experiment. And in terms of rockets from a technical standpoint, looking at the original Czech rockets the RV85 was meant to fire, that's exactly what it's for anyway.

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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #122 on: March 02, 2012, 09:37:26 AM »
Make a breech plug and turn it into a muzzle loader!
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #123 on: March 02, 2012, 10:00:47 AM »
Has anyone found chalk rounds for sale? 
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Re: Flare guns
« Reply #124 on: March 02, 2012, 10:02:55 AM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on February 28, 2012, 05:33:35 AM
And I have to wait two weeks to play with it? Dammit.

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